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    There is nothing bad about T400, apart from the pain that it causes but apart from this its good stuff if you cut it with something else that helps with the pain.

    The only difference between T400 and Test E is one comes in 400mg/ml and the test e 250mg/ml. But test is test

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    Quote Originally Posted by j martini
    There is nothing bad about T400, apart from the pain that it causes but apart from this its good stuff if you cut it with something else that helps with the pain.

    The only difference between T400 and Test E is one comes in 400mg/ml and the test e 250mg/ml. But test is test
    technically this is incorrect...the 400 vs 250 is not the only diff...test e is a single ester while t4 is a blend of prop,cyp and test e...usually something like 180 mg of tgest e and cyp and the rest in prop

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdawg
    technically this is incorrect...the 400 vs 250 is not the only diff...test e is a single ester while t4 is a blend of prop,cyp and test e...usually something like 180 mg of tgest e and cyp and the rest in prop
    True, but test is basically test despite the ether. And anyway enanthate and cyp are almost identical and there only is 25mg of prop.
    The breakdown of ethers in T400 never made much sense to me as enanthate and cyp almost have an identical half life and there is so little prop to be significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j martini
    True, but test is basically test despite the ether. And anyway enanthate and cyp are almost identical and there only is 25mg of prop.
    The breakdown of ethers in T400 never made much sense to me as enanthate and cyp almost have an identical half life and there is so little prop to be significant.
    ill just put it simple...test is test but there IS a diff between single esters and blends...thats my point .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdawg
    ill just put it simple...test is test but there IS a diff between single esters and blends...thats my point .
    True, but there is only a difference if the ethers used have different half lifes that is the point of a muli ether test blend to provide a slow continuous release of test but if you look at the ethers in test 400 you will see that this is not the case.
    If you disregard the prop which is only 25mg. Test enanthate and test cyp have an almost identical half life.
    Compare this to a true multi ether steroid like sus with ethers with vastly different half lifes.
    IMO test 400 has both cyp and enanthate to attract customers into buying it thinking that it is a multi ether product when in reality the difference between enanthate and cyp is minimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdawg
    ill just put it simple...test is test but there IS a diff between single esters and blends...thats my point .
    There's a pretty big difference in concentrations too...


    Did you know that if you shoot 100mgs of deca as 1ml as opposed to 4mls (same 100mgs), you'll actually get higher blood plasma levels with the more highly concentrated shot? Even though you're still shooting 100mgs of nandrolone....

    Weird, right?

    (*There's a chart showing this in my deca profile)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    There's a pretty big difference in concentrations too...


    Did you know that if you shoot 100mgs of deca as 1ml as opposed to 4mls (same 100mgs), you'll actually get higher blood plasma levels with the more highly concentrated shot? Even though you're still shooting 100mgs of nandrolone....

    Weird, right?

    (*There's a chart showing this in my deca profile)
    Do you know why? Does the extra oil slow down how quickly it is released slightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker

    Did you know that if you shoot 100mgs of deca as 1ml as opposed to 4mls (same 100mgs), you'll actually get higher blood plasma levels with the more highly concentrated shot? Even though you're still shooting 100mgs of nandrolone....



    (*There's a chart showing this in my deca profile)
    That's actually great info but what's the advantage/disadvantage of having higher blood plasma levels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by j martini
    True, but test is basically test despite the ether. And anyway enanthate and cyp are almost identical and there only is 25mg of prop.
    The breakdown of ethers in T400 never made much sense to me as enanthate and cyp almost have an identical half life and there is so little prop to be significant.

    TDAWG I"m with you. I've tried T400 along w/ a few others. Personally, its the biggest crap. I've had tests in front of me showing that it was extrememly underdosed. I wish I still had them in front of me so that I could list them for you. Basically there were about 5 bottles tested and all varied from about 285-385mgs per ML. That's both pathetic and inconsistent. That's so bad for your body to be using one bottle that's 380mg/ml then finishing and going to a bottle that's 280mg/ml. Blood levels are going to be fluctuating too much and then people wonder why they get side effects. I've never had side effects w/ human grade but had many w/ the vet, T400 being the worst.
    Also, there's a huge difference between Enanthate and T400, you guys have done a great job listing them too. Also the selling point of the enanthate and cyp is something to think about.

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