Experiment begins(ascorbic acid)

[Alpha-Male]

damn, just got into the office, not sure how much time i'll have to go over all this today, since Saturdays are very busy on our car lot...anyhoo, from what i remember in the research i found yesterday, it did say that some studies showed benefit, others did not...ive always heard that 'megadoses' of vitamins were very harmful for a person, and that you should get all you need from a well-balanced, healthy diet...if for some reason, you have a defecit, i.e. sickness/illness, etc, then of course, supplementation is necessary...what i would be most interested in, and what i could not find yesterday, are the studies you referenced by Charles Pollquin (sp?)...those are probably what we need to go by, or find some that are done in this manner: group A = experienced bodybuilders in their 20s on a healthy, well-balanced diet, no steroids who receive a 'megadose' of Vitamin C alone (cuz most of the studies you and i have posted were done with vit. C and other antioxidants) after a typical workout, and group B (control) = same subjects who receive either nothing or placebo (dont suppose placebo is needed)...at that point, have them record all of the different markers associated with muscle damage and repair, as well as cortisol levels, etc...then we'd have a good study, eh? i'll try to do some poking around throughout the day...good stuff though...

hey Johan, i also had a thought last night...i havent checked the supplement forum, but do they have a "profile" section? i mean, if they dont, i nominate you to start it up, kinda like Hooker in the steroid forum...make up some profiles on all kinds of vitamins, minerals, herbs, supplements and their potential benefits/negatives...if ya had the time that is

peace

AM

[Kärnfysikern]

damn, just got into the office, not sure how much time i'll have to go over all this today, since Saturdays are very busy on our car lot...anyhoo, from what i remember in the research i found yesterday, it did say that some studies showed benefit, others did not...ive always heard that 'megadoses' of vitamins were very harmful for a person, and that you should get all you need from a well-balanced, healthy diet...if for some reason, you have a defecit, i.e. sickness/illness, etc, then of course, supplementation is necessary...what i would be most interested in, and what i could not find yesterday, are the studies you referenced by Charles Pollquin (sp?)...those are probably what we need to go by, or find some that are done in this manner: group A = experienced bodybuilders in their 20s on a healthy, well-balanced diet, no steroids who receive a 'megadose' of Vitamin C alone (cuz most of the studies you and i have posted were done with vit. C and other antioxidants) after a typical workout, and group B (control) = same subjects who receive either nothing or placebo (dont suppose placebo is needed)...at that point, have them record all of the different markers associated with muscle damage and repair, as well as cortisol levels, etc...then we'd have a good study, eh? i'll try to do some poking around throughout the day...good stuff though...

The thing is the medical comunity realy doesnt experiment with mega dosage of ascorbic acid. For what reason I have no clue. Only a few "pioneers" have done work on that. People like Linus Pauling(nobel price winner 2 times), irwing stone, Thomas Levy, Fred R Kleener(the dude who cured polio and other "uncurable" diseases with vitamin c). But "officialy" there is no benifit to mega dosage of ascorbic acid.

This is a good read by Dr Levy about the medical communitys inability to accept vitamin c.
http://www.tomlevymd.com/vcint.htm Give it a read.

The pouliqin I mentioned. I dont think he has done any official studie but he mentiones on his website that he has seen alot of benifits from it and on t-muslce in a interview he talks aboiut how he got the idea and how amazing results mega dosage vitamin C done IV can have on bodycomposition. I didnt save the link but I will try to find it. I think it was in another thread I started.

hey Johan, i also had a thought last night...i havent checked the supplement forum, but do they have a "profile" section? i mean, if they dont, i nominate you to start it up, kinda like Hooker in the steroid forum...make up some profiles on all kinds of vitamins, minerals, herbs, supplements and their potential benefits/negatives...if ya had the time that is

peace

AM

Im acctualy doing that I wrote something short on Vitamin A as my first adition but took it offline since I found I had included some wrong info. I will try and do "profiles" on all vitamins and important minerals but since I am a perfectionist it will take some time lol Vitamins are incredibly complex and it seems like they have so many different functions in the body that its insane to go in depth.