Quote Originally Posted by ando
great, sounds good cheers guys. i think i'll actually try dianabol and deca. thanks for the advice.
Yea but you cannot run dianabol for the full 12 weeks like the deca. There is actually a science to why you want to run test e or test cyp with deca and not winny. Winny will fight the deca trying to do the exact opposite. Test and deca counteract each other's side effects and also have a super synergistic effect of helping each other give you maximum muscle growth, and also the 2 combined cause natural increases in your growth hormone production giving you outstanding keepability of muscle gains. Your best bet would be to run deca for 12 weeks but run the test cyp for 14 weeks, then go on clomid at the 16th week. No need to run HCG, no need to fear and kinda of bloating, sexual difficulty or side effects, recovery will come as easy as with anything followng this method.