actualy ironmaster i was waiting for u to respond ,soon as u got a chance.i know u know your shit when it comes to this.i remeber from a previous post.samoth i dont want to look like marcus rule,thats why im taking it easy ,moderatio is the key in almost anything u do .imnot taking slin cause its to sketchy and im not 100% on hoe sonim not botheering with it(thats why the low dose also,it can get sketchy with a big dose ,if ur not using slin or so.)i never said that im not taking other gear with it.im gonna run it for like 12-14 weeks with testand then by itself and after hcg and my clomid run it with something mild var,or something.as far as carefull goes it doesntbget any better then straight from my cousins pharmacy in greece to my hands!oh iron master u got a PM.