Well, I'm over 3 weeks into the var and I have to say I'm not impressed very much. The pumps are ok, the strength is good, but that's about it. I might have gained a slight amount of vascularity in my shoulders/chest, but not much. I have gained only 1 pound in total weight just cannot tell much of a difference. My wife made a statement yesterday that she could not really tell a difference in me since starting the var. She said she could tell big differences at the end of the 4 weeks of tbol, but none since then. I guess this is more reassurance that var is a good synergistic/supplemental product. I will definitely use tbol as the base of my next cycle and possibly var along with, but not all that much considering the price.