Originally posted by the quest aka ef

that is bad and i'm sorry about that. like you said he had high blood pressure not only is it bad for your heart, but bad for the kidney which in your friends case it messed him up. also water retention is bad for your kidneys. did he use a lot of harsh drugs such as anadrol, fina, and halo?
exactly,

That is a harsh story, but sust and nolva dont' have much to do with your kidneys. What esle was he doing...? or was it unrelated to juice totally...

Sounds like a case of specious reasoning....he did sust&nolva and lost his kidneys- therefore sust&nolva kill your kidneys.....?