Actually, Jay has better calves and his abs look better. His waist is wide as hell, though, and his muscles look soft. Jay's symmetry has recently been really poor and I hope that is why he took a year off, to fix this problem.Originally Posted by bor
Ronnie beats Jay in everything else. His waist is also narrow and his abs are flat as hell when posing. His back dominates. His arms dominate. His quads/glutes/hams dominate. His muscles look grainy, hard and just freaking etched. His symmetry is outstanding and his proportions are just about perfect for his mass.
Jay is good but Ronnie is awesome.