Quote Originally Posted by beantown12
i have found with that much test, and all that dbol, that you wont keep a lot, if at all any gains, dbols will get you bloated, but you will notice gains fairly quickly with the dbols and test. i had a buddy do that and he thinks that he pissed out all the dbols along with all the water retention, maybe you should throw in some deca once a week to help keep some gains.

that really isnt a lot of test, that right there, w/o tha dbols is a standard newb cycle, dbols will give u water retention which will help u build muscle, thats tha exact cycle im on and im highly doubting losing more than 5 pounds if that, ive gained 20+