Originally posted by BigGunzOZ
- i never do military press ( just when i get bored sometimes)

I do - arnolds presses, shoulder press with hammer strenght and
some cables.
thats it.
I never heard of any of those exercises (except of course military presses, duh!). Hmmm. Maybe that's my problem!

Seriously--can you give a btter description of them; I am curious to learn more.

Ironweb: I think we all agree that balance is best, but I would rather have your problem: I get delt-envy in a big way!