Quote Originally Posted by needbigguns
Starting my winter cycle soon i want to run an 8 weeker with is fairly low on the androgenic scale...This is what iv come up with to stay lean but hopefully still put on some decent size...

week 1 - 8 Prop (What dosage?)
week 1 - 8 dbol - 15 mg per day - going to experiment with this
week 2 - 8 winny - 35mg per day

- Some fast acting deca would be great but cant get hold of it, even though running deca for 8 weeks is too short - if im not botherd about wasting SOME of it, do you think i could still add it ? atleast ill get 4 weeks of it "KICKED IN" and il obviously gain more with it than without.

- I was thinking, even though im running 2 orals, the dosage only adds up to 50mg which is the normal Dbol dosage anyway...may add milk this and also 100mcg per day clen in PCT for its anti catabolic effects...
if you could, I'd extend the cycle to at least 10 weeks. Then if you can get a hold of deca pp you'd be okay to run it for 8 weeks. Remember it's still a phenylpropinate ester so it'll kick in relativley quickly. As for the two orals, let us know how this works for you. I've also though before of capping my own orals with a 50/50 blend of say tbol and var or something else of the like. Deca pp might put on a bit of bloat, so I'd use nolva and ldex throughout. Hopefully with the ldex and nolva you can keep the bloat from the deca pp and dbol to a min, letting the winny have more of a profound effect.