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To answere the original question I consume 15-20 grams of vitamin c(sodium ascorbate)/day. Up to 50+ if Im about to catch a cold.


Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicBoy1981
Im suprized Johan hasnt posted yet,lol.
Me, i take 3 grams.

Striker, you and your brothers findings as well as the recomendations made in the first study for people with inflammatory disease can be attributed to this: Vitamin C helps certain prostaglandins be produced in the body. These prostaglandins(PGE2) are pro-inflammatory mini-hormones. They name "prostaglandins" was given to them because they where first discovered in high concentration in the the prostate gland and semen. So if you raised your Vit C intake, your PGE2 increased, and the ones elevated in your prostate caused the inflammation making it hard to pee. There is some thought now that inflammation may be a benefit to the anabolic process. This is the thinking behind products like "X-Factor" and "Adonis-X", which both contain the omega-6 fatty acid Arachidonic Acid(AA). Increased levels of AA has been shown to increase the PGE2 output. Omega-3 fatty acids on the other hand do the opposite. This is why fish oils are recomended for inflammation in the joints. I would say if your going to take high vitamen c, then increase your fish oil and flax if you notice signs of inflammation. I plan on running a high dose of AA with a hefty dose of vitamin C in the next month or so. I will let you guys know how it goes. Inflammation as you may have guessed is bad for health. Most american have whats called "silent inflamation" form to much insulin production. Insulin increases AA production in the body regardless of AA consumption. So a person taking vitamen C who is overwight and eating to many carbs is probably not really helping themselves too much. Not to digress from the vitamin C talk but,
I have found evidence that omega-3 fatty accids can help muscle gain and fat burning, and found evidence that omega-6 fatty acids can too. But they do it by two different pathways. One is the safe anti-inflammatory way, the other is the risky pro-inflmmatory way. It's like the light side of the the force, and the dark side. But you have to choose because you can't have both! They contadict each other. So taking high doses of omega 3' and 6's at the same time will do nothing. But whatever side you do choose, Vitamin C will increase whatever side your on, because vitaman C helps both sets of prostaglandins get producted. It may however have slight more benefit in increasing the inflmmatory side if i remember correctly but im not sure. A great book about the subject is called "The Anit-Inflamation Zone" by Barry Sears. Awesome book covering iflammation. He recomended limited vit C because of his findings. His book make AA products seem like poisen, but i think there is still more research to be done on the anabolic side of inflammation. I hope William LLewelyn publishes some if his findings.
There is more to this then the prostagladins. Interleukin's for instance. Vit c lowers interleukin 6(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleukin_6) induced by training(very good for us in other words)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...848&query_hl=2

What the net effect would but on inflamation I can not tell but since vit c increases good prostaglandins and decrases Il-6 I would think for those that do alot of exercise that it will have a net effect of lowering inflamation.

Consumption of high-pressurized vegetable soup increases plasma vitamin C and decreases oxidative stress and inflammatory biomarkers in healthy humans.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...269&query_hl=5

High-pressurized orange juice consumption affects plasma vitamin C,
antioxidative status and inflammatory markers in healthy humans.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...179&query_hl=5

Quote Originally Posted by wolfyEVH
you guys are going overkill.

http://www.napa.ufl.edu/2001news/vitaminC.htm

http://my.webmd.com/content/pages/1/3079_1515

you guys shouldnt be exceeding 2 grams a day at the most.
lol we rust inside. That first article is just a bunch of bad conclusion and why would anyone non anemic even supplement with iron. I wouldnt advice anyone to use mega dosages of vit c along with iron not because of any "rust". But because vit c makes the body so efficient at storing iron that toxic levels can be reached.

The second article supports vit c supplementation. The human body can absorb FAR more than 200mg. They have drawn that poor conclusion by the fact that alot is excreted by urin. Funny thing is that a pig that produces 10+ grams of vit c also excretes alot of vit c in the urine but no one doubts the pig needs that ammount of vit c.
Another funny thing is that the rdi of vit c for a monkey is 5 grams while the rdi for humans is a pathetic 50mg. We have the exact same need for vit c as monkeys....Acctualy by most accounts our ancestors got around 5-7 grams of vit c daily through diet.

Do a search on my name and vitamin c and all the articles showings both its safety and its efficiency at high dosages will pop upp. Why anyone would take less then 5grams/day is beyond me. When more is proven to protect against various diseases and has a host of other benifits(insulin sensitivity, cancer protection, gets rid of heavy metals).
"Vitamin c, curing the incurable" By Dr Tom Levy or "Ascorbate" By Dr Hickey is 2 good books that everyone should read(atleast everyone that wants to be in control of there own health).