As I understand it, the strength increase many people experience from substances like dbol and test are largely due to the water retention (there is some scientific explanation for this that I can't articulate... maybe cells are more volumized so they can react with more force when compressed under heavy weights... something like that). the other half of the logic follows is when you train heavier you grow more... so my idea, since i want to bulk this time, is to run test without anti-e's, or a very low dose, so I don't eliminate the water bloat so I can reap the strength benefits. naturally i will have nolvadex and arimidex on hand, but after running my last cycle with .75mg arimidex/ed and experiencing no bloat, I'm wondering if this time around I'll get more growth from holding some water during the cycle and having it go away as the cycle tapers down (either naturally or through arimidex use all the way through clomid).