My Second Cycle!!!!!

**CRUISECONTROL** · 09-29-2005, 08:39 AM

Here was my first cycle

1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
11 – 12 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED as needed for bloat

Here is the layout for my second cycle....... I'm confused on how long to run the Deca.......... If you run the test one week longer than the deca then PCT lines up perfectly but in the Deca profile Hooker says that test needs to be ran 2 weeks longer...........

I will speculate that testosterone in a deca-inclusive cycle needs to be run for at least 2 additional weeks upon cessation of Deca.

Test E 500 mg/wk 1-15 weeks
Deca 400mg/wk for 1-13 or 14 wks

Dbol 40 mg ed for weeks 1-5
Nolva @10mg ed for anti e
Nolva and clomid for PCT
HCG

**Dave321** · 09-29-2005, 09:02 AM

test e has a 14 day half life... the deca can be run longer...

**CRUISECONTROL** · 09-29-2005, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

test e has a 14 day half life... the deca can be run longer...

pct start times for test e is 14 days and 21 for deca and I believe the reason hooker recommends running the test e 2 weeks longer is for libido

**Dave321** · 09-29-2005, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by CRUISECONTROL

pct start times for test e is 14 days and 21 for deca and I believe the reason hooker recommends running the test e 2 weeks longer is for libido

I was going to edit my post... I didn't even realize that I was writing about Deca, until I read my post again... you're right.... I have to stop smoking this crack!

**CRUISECONTROL** · 09-29-2005, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

I was going to edit my post... I didn't even realize that I was writing about Deca, until I read my post again... you're right.... I have to stop smoking this crack!

No!!!!!!!!!!!!! my sales will drop significantly

**Dave321** · 09-29-2005, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by CRUISECONTROL

No!!!!!!!!!!!!! my sales will drop significantly

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... I thought we had an agreement no to discuss this on the "board"...

**CRUISECONTROL** · 09-29-2005, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... I thought we had an agreement no to discuss this on the "board"...

oops

but you started it

**CRUISECONTROL** · 09-29-2005, 09:15 AM

my question is should the test be ran 1 or two weeks longer because I recommended a similar cycle and was told that it should be only 1 week longer which makes sense for pct

**shortie** · 09-29-2005, 09:23 AM

Cruise for my 2 cents I think that the reason hooker recommends the 2 week difference is that we frequently don't think of a half life correctly. In 21 days deca will not be out of your system it will only be half of the original amount, so with a large depot of say 500 mg you would still have 250 mg left that will be there for approx another 21 days. With the E in 14 days you have half gone and 14 days later it is for the most part gone, therefore 21+21=42/ 14+14=28, you would need to add the extra weeks to get clearance tims to get closer to lining up.28+14=42.
clearance for e + 2 weeks=clearance for deca

**CRUISECONTROL** · 09-29-2005, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by shortie

Cruise for my 2 cents I think that the reason hooker recommends the 2 week difference is that we frequently don't think of a half life correctly. In 21 days deca will not be out of your system it will only be half of the original amount, so with a large depot of say 500 mg you would still have 250 mg left that will be there for approx another 21 days. With the E in 14 days you have half gone and 14 days later it is for the most part gone, therefore 21+21=42/ 14+14=28, you would need to add the extra weeks to get clearance tims to get closer to lining up.28+14=42.
clearance for e + 2 weeks=clearance for deca

Thank you shortie!!!! That has been driving me nuts, I've been reading and reading trying to find which way was correct

**Dave321** · 09-29-2005, 09:31 AM

here's a good cycle for you Cruise:
Deca 1-14
Dbol 1-8
Win 8-14
Tren 2-14
Drol 1-8 (stack with Dbol)
Eq 1-14 (works well with Dec/tren/win)

what do you think.... don't worry about test, you don't want hair on your back....

**Dally** · 09-29-2005, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

here's a good cycle for you Cruise:
Deca 1-14
Dbol 1-8
Win 8-14
Tren 2-14
Drol 1-8 (stack with Dbol)
Eq 1-14 (works well with Dec/tren/win)

what do you think.... don't worry about test, you don't want hair on your back....

you mean more hair on his back....

mind you thats the only part ive ever seen....the back of his head...his hairy ass....his pretty face and mouth

cruise .... have you run test before you may not need the l dex considering you have nolva in there. Less is more sometimes considering your lipids will get wacked with l dex.

correct me if I am wrong but ldex stops estrogen production?

mind you I was more bloated using it than not.

**CRUISECONTROL** · 09-29-2005, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Dally

you mean more hair on his back....

mind you thats the only part ive ever seen....the back of his head...his hairy ass....his pretty face and mouth

cruise .... have you run test before you may not need the l dex considering you have nolva in there. Less is more sometimes considering your lipids will get wacked with l dex.

correct me if I am wrong but ldex stops estrogen production?

mind you I was more bloated using it than not.

I've ran one cycle before as listed above, Actually I got the l-dex for pct originally @ .25 ed and heard recommendations that it also works great for excessive bloat......... Hooker recommends letro in his profile on deca

**CRUISECONTROL** · 09-29-2005, 09:50 AM

For conformation the deca should be shot once a week and test e twice a week?

**shortie** · 09-29-2005, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by CRUISECONTROL

For conformation the deca should be shot once a week and test e twice a week?

That will work if you want it to, but I like smaller injects so I split my deca into twice aweek also.

**CRUISECONTROL** · 09-29-2005, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by shortie

That will work if you want it to, but I like smaller injects so I split my deca into twice aweek also.

Cool, did you still combine your deca and test in the same syringe?

**Dave321** · 09-29-2005, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by CRUISECONTROL

Cool, did you still combine your deca and test in the same syringe?

yes, this is fine

**shortie** · 09-29-2005, 09:56 AM

Test+Deca=Excellent cocktail

**CRUISECONTROL** · 09-29-2005, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

yes, this is fine

cool I'm set to grow

**CRUISECONTROL** · 05-12-2006, 01:16 PM

resurecting this old post with another question.......

First I have not started this cycle yet and I have got some anvar tabs and was curious how I should tie these in with this cycle ????????

and any recommendations on lowering my dosages of my test and deca????????

**CRUISECONTROL** · 05-12-2006, 02:44 PM

Bump

**Booz** · 05-12-2006, 03:56 PM

how much var have you got mate.......

**CRUISECONTROL** · 05-12-2006, 06:00 PM

Not much I have 33 tabs @ 5mg Naposim

**CRUISECONTROL** · 05-12-2006, 06:01 PM

from what I've read I should be taking 20 to 100 mg per day and if that is the case I dont have enough to worry about

**CRUISECONTROL** · 05-13-2006, 08:42 AM

Amazing discovery Naposim is D-bol not Anvar!!!!!!!!

**shortie** · 05-13-2006, 10:27 AM

Yeah, bro naps are Dbol, 33 isn't enough to do jack, save em.

**CRUISECONTROL** · 05-13-2006, 12:09 PM

Thanks shortie ya learn something new everyday!!!!!

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