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    best thing before bed, especially if bulking, is 30-60 grams of whey protein and some high glycemic carbohydrate (ie simple sugars) like dextrose, orange juice, etc. You don't want a lot of the carbohydrate, but enough to spike yoru insulin levels, as insulin plays a large role in protein transport into cells. What you eat before bed is almost as important as PWO, IMO. Your body does most of its growing at night (the same hormones that regulate your sleep/wake cycle stimulate your GH production; your pineal gland), and right when you fall asleep is when your body releases most of it's daily GH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montgomery
    best thing before bed, especially if bulking, is 30-60 grams of whey protein and some high glycemic carbohydrate (ie simple sugars) like dextrose, orange juice, etc. You don't want a lot of the carbohydrate, but enough to spike yoru insulin levels, as insulin plays a large role in protein transport into cells. What you eat before bed is almost as important as PWO, IMO. Your body does most of its growing at night (the same hormones that regulate your sleep/wake cycle stimulate your GH production; your pineal gland), and right when you fall asleep is when your body releases most of it's daily GH.

    Montgomery
    very sick joke........very sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montgomery
    best thing before bed, especially if bulking, is 30-60 grams of whey protein and some high glycemic carbohydrate (ie simple sugars) like dextrose, orange juice, etc. You don't want a lot of the carbohydrate, but enough to spike yoru insulin levels, as insulin plays a large role in protein transport into cells. What you eat before bed is almost as important as PWO, IMO. Your body does most of its growing at night (the same hormones that regulate your sleep/wake cycle stimulate your GH production; your pineal gland), and right when you fall asleep is when your body releases most of it's daily GH.

    Montgomery
    Yeah and Carbohydrate feeding before bed does nothing for GH. I'd love to see where you got this info from. I would never ever say for somone to consume a High GI carb before bed. If anything you want a low Gi slow digesting carb to help keep you anabolic or not catabolic during the night. Hi Gi before bed is a bad idea.

    Growth Hormone Secretion during Sleep
    Y. Takahashi, D. M. Kipnis, and W. H. Daughaday

    Washington University School of Medicine, Department of Medicine, Metabolism Division, St. Louis, Missouri 63110

    This article has been cited by other articles in PMC.

    Abstract


    Plasma growth hormone (GH), insulin, cortisol, and glucose were measured during sleep on 38 nights in eight young adults. Blood was drawn from an indwelling catheter at 30-min intervals; EEG and electrooculogram were recorded throughout the night. In seven subjects, a plasma GH peak (13-72 mμg/ml) lasting 1.5-3.5 hr appeared with the onset of deep sleep. Smaller GH peaks (6-14 mμg/ml) occasionally appeared during subsequent deep sleep phases. Peak GH secretion was delayed if the onset of sleep was delayed. Subjects who were awakened for 2-3 hr and allowed to return to sleep exhibited another peak of GH secretion (14-46 mμg/ml). Peak GH secretion was not correlated with changes in plasma glucose, insulin, and cortisol. The effects of 6-CNS-active drugs on sleep-related GH secretion were investigated. Imipramine (50 mg) completely abolished GH peaks in two of four subjects, whereas chlorpromazine (30 mg), phenobarbital (97 mg), diphenylhydantoin (90 mg), chlordiazepoxide (20 mg), and isocarboxazid (30 mg) did not inhibit GH peaks. Altered hypothalamic activity associated with initiation of sleep results in a major peak of growth hormone secretion unrelated to hypoglycemia or changes in cortisol and insulin secretion.

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