Quick, but relevant story, I got into gear about 8 yrs ago after a conversation with the guy who used to sell me supplements at wholesale. After 5yrs and countless $ with him we were b.s.ing about a new supplement that the manufacturer claimed was as good as the real deal. I finally asked him,"does it really compare to steroids?" Put quite simply, he came clean with and told me that flat out he had never, ever taken an otc supplement with 10% of the efficacy of the real deal. I haven't spoken to him since, now this is not to advocate AAS useage, and some supplements have their place, but nothing you can buy at GNC would score higher than 0-1 in the test you have lsited.