Quote Originally Posted by BigLittleTim
Try to remember: It's not just where you are now, but where you started from, that matters. I think some guys, like SwoleCat, do take a guy's genetic starting point into consideration when offering critique, maybe due to being a trainer himself.

Some posters may not look impressive compared to SOME other guys' physiques, but if you were starting from string-bean or lard-butt, these posts do show a remarkable transformation.

The Jay Cutlers of the world already know they're huge; they don't need you or me to tell them.

BigLittleTim

Yea, but just because they are 6 feet tall and started out at 120lbs and are now at 165 doesnt mean they did the right thing by taking juice, even if they have gained 45 lbs.