Mass cycle

[Two4the$$]

You're going to look like a balloon. Um, probably have to run Letro ...

Also, I'd run the EQ at 600mg ED.

DBol is a little high, but I'm sure you knew that when you chose that dose. If its unbearable, lower the dose - and I'm sure you know that.

1000mg per week would be a good dose of test ... just make sure your prepared for some tempermentalness of your moods, and that you are getting a good amount of rest. The Letro will take ALL of your estrogen out, and save you risks of progestenic sides from the Nandrolone... the worry is obviously that Test is immunosuppressive, and without Estrogen ... you'll be vulnerable to getting sick during your cycle.

Otherwise, looks good. Deca requires a lot of food to be useful, but EQ and Test should certainly help that. Personally, I would definitely Sub the Deca for Tren, but the insomnia's brutal - at least for me. Otherwise, looks good...

[Steven7]

You're going to look like a balloon. Um, probably have to run Letro ...

Also, I'd run the EQ at 600mg ED.

DBol is a little high, but I'm sure you knew that when you chose that dose. If its unbearable, lower the dose - and I'm sure you know that.

1000mg per week would be a good dose of test ... just make sure your prepared for some tempermentalness of your moods, and that you are getting a good amount of rest. The Letro will take ALL of your estrogen out, and save you risks of progestenic sides from the Nandrolone... the worry is obviously that Test is immunosuppressive, and without Estrogen ... you'll be vulnerable to getting sick during your cycle.

Otherwise, looks good. Deca requires a lot of food to be useful, but EQ and Test should certainly help that. Personally, I would definitely Sub the Deca for Tren, but the insomnia's brutal - at least for me. Otherwise, looks good...

I realise the dbol dose is pretty high, but I'm going to give it a go anyway. I can always reduce the dosage if need be.

I was going to run nolva during my cycle to combat the estrogen. I'm not too familiar with Letro.

anyone have any thoughts on this?

[Drummerboy]

I realise the dbol dose is pretty high, but I'm going to give it a go anyway. I can always reduce the dosage if need be.

I was going to run nolva during my cycle to combat the estrogen. I'm not too familiar with Letro.

anyone have any thoughts on this?

you will do nothing to lower your estro levels with nolva... just block some key areas... Nolva also lowers your IGF levels, so use it only if necessary. letro, or any other AI will lower estro levels anywhere from 50-90%. I dont start anti-e's on a bulker cause estro will help a lot to keep your joints and tendons buttery(anti-inflamitory effect)... only use if i get sides i dont want(gyno, bad acne) i dont mind the bloat on a bulker at all... Estro levels that are too low cause me to get sore joints and i am at a much greater risk of injury if i lift heavy, which is what you want to do on your bulker. Do you know if your estrogen sensetive?

[Steven7]

you will do nothing to lower your estro levels with nolva... just block some key areas... Nolva also lowers your IGF levels, so use it only if necessary. letro, or any other AI will lower estro levels anywhere from 50-90%. I dont start anti-e's on a bulker cause estro will help a lot to keep your joints and tendons buttery(anti-inflamitory effect)... only use if i get sides i dont want(gyno, bad acne) i dont mind the bloat on a bulker at all... Estro levels that are too low cause me to get sore joints and i am at a much greater risk of injury if i lift heavy, which is what you want to do on your bulker. Do you know if your estrogen sensetive?

NO, I don't know. I have run test at 1200mg p/w and deca at 400mg p/w (not together) before and haven't had any sides. I always have nolva handy on the off chance.

[Drummerboy]

You're going to look like a balloon. Um, probably have to run Letro ...

Also, I'd run the EQ at 600mg ED.

DBol is a little high, but I'm sure you knew that when you chose that dose. If its unbearable, lower the dose - and I'm sure you know that.

1000mg per week would be a good dose of test ... just make sure your prepared for some tempermentalness of your moods, and that you are getting a good amount of rest. The Letro will take ALL of your estrogen out, and save you risks of progestenic sides from the Nandrolone... the worry is obviously that Test is immunosuppressive, and without Estrogen ... you'll be vulnerable to getting sick during your cycle.

Otherwise, looks good. Deca requires a lot of food to be useful, but EQ and Test should certainly help that. Personally, I would definitely Sub the Deca for Tren, but the insomnia's brutal - at least for me. Otherwise, looks good...

good points about the immune system.. often overlooked