You probably won't get any serious gains until a week or so. Test E takes about until week 4 or 5 to seriously kick in. Also, the test e should always be higher than the deca.
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You probably won't get any serious gains until a week or so. Test E takes about until week 4 or 5 to seriously kick in. Also, the test e should always be higher than the deca.
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I appreciate the input so far. Keep it up! Here's the deal about my cals. I was 117lbs when I started lifting. I made it to 185 in a couple years with only basic supplements and ambition. However, my waist was 37 (chest 46 1/2.... 16" arms)...I was big and strong but not lean enough. So I cut down...but too much...to 155, then back to 175 leaner 35" waist, then 155 then back to 170 34-35 waist range but leaner then 150 then up again to 170ish...this was over a few years. So anyway..when I started this job at 168lbs stable my waist was around 33....when I dropped to 143 in just over 2 months my waist was just below 28...now probably right at 28 with some water retention from the stack. My diet is flawlessly clean except for my cheat day(s) (Sun..sometimes Sat/Sun).
I do NOT want to gain fat when I bulk up for fear of losing muscle AGAIN (3rd of 4th time) for the sake of fat loss. I want to get big and STAY big this time. If I had done this right before, I'd be over 200lbs by now. These fluctuations have been over 7 years of lifting. (24 y/o) (I was a runner for the first few years though).
If I up my calories they're going to be clean cals (since I finally have my diet to the point where I eat only whole/clean foods and no processed sugars). So...I SHOULD be ok upping cals (and monitoring visible fat appearance) ....and backing off on cals if I begin to gain fat right?
Also...apparently I haven't been patient w/the stack...3.5 wks now...if I don't see something by week 5-6 (with increased cals by 100/wk and 4000+ on cheat days), then up my dosage? Also....are the results that dramatic when it "KICKS IN" ? I feel slightly stronger right now and my temper is way up...but no size increase worth mentioning (not even as good as past use of prohormones at low doses).
Last edited by liftin4life; 10-23-2005 at 01:03 PM.
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Why does the Test E need to be higher than the Deca? Just for sexual issues?
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Yes, and depression/well being/etc.Originally Posted by liftin4life
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Hmm...well right now my sex drive is REALLY REALLY high. Only one issue...my nipples are a little sore but no puffyness or anything. I started taking Aromadex (VPX) at 8cc/day to combat this (2 days ago)..but haven't seen a difference yet. I'm picking up B6 tomorrow. I was thinking of doing the Letro...but not sure if I trust ordering it here. What happens if I get caught w/the Letro? What is the legality of it?
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depending on the person himself is going to vary if his sex drive drops signifigintly with the use of deca while also adminstrating the same does of test, i personally would not be willing to run his 1st 3 weeks of his cycle with test the same mg as deca because i know that would shut me down..lets see if i get this right
Deca is a progestin which has the ability to supress your natural testostrone levels,(better stated from Hooker in his deca profile) which also if you read in his profile he will show you a study where 100mgs of deca shut down a persons natural testostrone for 1 month! that was 1 100mg injection and the poor guy was down for a month.. now like many others have stated your test should be higher than your deca dosage the reason i believe in this so strong is because like i stated deca is hard on you and can/will shut you down now.. with low natural testostrone you can show loss of libido and energy, there also are other effects from low natural testostrone but when using other AAS in conjuction/same mg as your synthetic test i am no quite sure if that would be effected until i read up a little more i won't go out on this limb any further...
thats just a couple of reasons ppl like to supplement Testostrone esters as a base..because they are the closest thing to our natural testostrone that we can get, even though we are adminstrating forgien chemicals into our body i see it as we might as well try maintain some sort of balance and that is to make sure we keep our test levels higher than other componds we put in our body(i can say 1 big reason it is a must for alot of bb's is libido) because i know personally good friends who will ride the lines with dosages end up getting shut down even when there adminstrating test 100mgs above there other componds but i mostly saw that in tren incidences just my opinion if im wrong please correct me
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