Hey, I posted this in the supp section of the board and they said to try posting it here. I usally like to run winny the last five weeks of my cycles. This is my 5th cycle and I am using test e @ 500 mg / wk for 16 wks. I do not want to use winny this cycle due to awful joint pain while on it. Is there any over the counter supplements you can use at the end of your cycle to lower bodyfat and harden up that work as good as winny??