if used it a couple times by itself and had no side effects that bothered me. Increased aggresion, but that part of the reason i took it(football) I went up to 30mg a day, which i think is enough for any beginner. I gained 10lbs and wasn't even training or wathing my diet(in the middle of football season) If i could have done it again, i would have stacked it with something else. Either test or fina.
I'm currently on week 4 of a fina+dbol cycle. Up 15 lbs and lets just say i wish it was football season. I would tear someone up if it was.
You gotta be careful with the whole side effects thing. On those lists, every possible side effect at every possible dosage is listed. At a conservative dosage almost all of the side effects can be avoided. Scrutinize everything you read.