whats with all these guys with not enough gear? bro if you dont have enough. WAIT TILL YOU DO! these are your fist cycles and you only have 13 sus? you need about 20 or 25 at least. run it at 500mgs for 10 weeks at least. sus takes awhile to kick in. you have dbol to theres no need to frontload. not a flame but i have been reading alot of posts here with guys wanting to do cycles with little gear.