Ive gotten great gains with dbol only cycles. I have yet to go over 20 mg/ day and Im 240 lbs. I gain between 5-7lbs. while on as well as my strength increases between 20- 30 lbs per lift ( just the basic squat bench deadlift). However when I come of my weight returns to normal but the strength stays maybe loosing the most 5 lbs per lift. Ive been training for 6 years naturally and Ive done 3 dbol only cycles 6 weeks in duration.