Sustonan 250 What do you think?

[Anavar Man]

What is the general opinion of pharmacutical grade Sustonan, you guy's like it?

[marcus300]

What is the general opinion of pharmacutical grade Sustonan, you guy's like it?

most people on here would rather have a single ester compound, less injection and its easier to maintain blood levels, but i have had some serious gains from sus in the past, ive tried it many ways and for me to respond i have to inject EOD, this keeps the blood levels stable, also abit of a painfull shot but who cares, yeh i like it if its used correctly

[G-1000]

i liek sust but you need to shoot ed or eod. if you can do that it's nice stuff.

[Anavar Man]

To the best of my knowledge Sus has 4 active esters. Two of which are short acting and two of which are longer acting. I plan on doing a total of 500mg of test a week. I was going to shoot 250mg of Sus on monday mornings and 250mg of enanthate on thur. afternoons until I run out of the 10ml bottle of Sus. I will then continue the rest of the cycle with the Enanthate.I guess there will be approx. 7 days between stabs with the short acting ester.

[goalseeker]

I ran sust at 500/wk on my first cycle.. it was alright... I think its more of a starter roid..IMO

[goalseeker]

beautiful avatar, by the way......

[mkrulic]

This is the way most people feel about inject freq w/ sust. they base this on the fact that it has prop in it. even though the prop makes up less than 15% of the coumpound.

i liek sust but you need to shoot ed or eod. if you can do that it's nice stuff.

anavar man,
prop - 2 days
phenprop - 4.5 days
isocap - 5 days
dec - 14 days

I'd call it one short, two inbetween, and one long

[NYC BIG MIKE]

Back in the day I used to run 500 mgs ED and there was nothing I prefered to it.

[harddrive]

Ass gets sore, but I like it so far, 3 weeks into the first cycle.


HD

[marcus300]

Back in the day I used to run 500 mgs ED and there was nothing I prefered to it.

them were the days,,,remember them well,,what a buzz at that dose

[goalseeker]

Back in the day I used to run 500 mgs ED and there was nothing I prefered to it.

seriously? didnt the prop wreak havock on yourself?

[NYC BIG MIKE]

seriously? didnt the prop wreak havock on yourself?

my middle name is "Havoc"...............it ain't any different that doing prop everyday by itself cuz it's only 60 mgs of prop per 500 mgs of sustanon. And no it didnt hurt. Like my brother marcus said.....the buzz...........oh yeah

[MASTER]

sust is my favourite test, its always been good to me, gotta shoot eod day tho for it to be fully effective imo.

[PaulieM.]

i've always read that after the long esters kick in-after 2 weeks to a month-it actually keeps your levels more stable than using single ester because cyp and enanthate can supposedly build up and cause levels to fluctuate. i go with sustanon

[Anavar Man]

I still think it can have good effectivness at two shots per week. There are so many opinions out there what do you believe?

[Tanker]

My first cycle i was taking 250 mgs of sus every 5 days and loved it.My next cycle was test E 200 mgs every 3 days and the sides for me were horible plus my sex drive on the test E was not near as good

[Anavar Man]

Anybody else out there have any history on shooting sust at 250mg twice a week

[marcus300]

Anybody else out there have any history on shooting sust at 250mg twice a week

to get the best out of the sus it needs to be shot EOD, depends if you want the best out of it

[mkrulic]

500mg/week is too low for me but I know people who run it like this w/o problems.
quesiton for all the die hard gotta shoot it ed or eod people. have you ever run the numbers to justify your positions? here is the formula:
(mg of hormone)*2^(-time/half life) = active amount of hormone in system at current time
where the time is given in same units as the half life. i.e. if the half is in days the time is in days.

Anybody else out there have any history on shooting sust at 250mg twice a week

[goose]

I`m not a fan of test Sust.But for the dude who is injecting 4 ampules of Sustanon per week, there is no advantage over other testosterone products. In fact, the high price tag for Sustanon usually makes it a very poor buy in the face of cheaper testosterone,so by saving money you can save up for another AAS.

goose4.........

[G-1000]

This is the way most people feel about inject freq w/ sust. they base this on the fact that it has prop in it. even though the prop makes up less than 15% of the coumpound.




anavar man,
prop - 2 days
phenprop - 4.5 days
isocap - 5 days
dec - 14 days

I'd call it one short, two inbetween, and one long

Then what is the point of running sust if you dont shoot eod or ed. you will not be getting effect from the prop at all.

[G-1000]

500mg/week is too low for me but I know people who run it like this w/o problems.
quesiton for all the die hard gotta shoot it ed or eod people. have you ever run the numbers to justify your positions? here is the formula:
(mg of hormone)*2^(-time/half life) = active amount of hormone in system at current time
where the time is given in same units as the half life. i.e. if the half is in days the time is in days.

Do your self a favor go and learn something new today.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t+blood+levels

[NYC BIG MIKE]

You get the effect but it's like a parabolic curve because it's not steady with respect to the amount of prop in the bloodstream at any given time.

[Kale]

Some of you nerds might find this interesting http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.co...e/sust250.html

[NYC BIG MIKE]

Some of you nerds might find this interesting http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.co...e/sust250.html

Guess I'm a nerd, I liked that link.

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Then what is the point of running sust if you dont shoot eod or ed. you will not be getting effect from the prop at all.

bro i dont understand why most of people look at sustanon as its prop its not it contains 4 esters most of the guys here look at it like they are using prop & forget about the other esters so what if you shot it twice a wk ok the prop will get out of the system but there are 3 more esters working in your body & there many people had great success shooting it twice a week can you explain that btw i did my first cycle susta 500mg eod & i had minimum gains i'll try with my next cycle this wk to shoot it twice a week & see how it will work with me.

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[JiGGaMaN]

the reason why people say that isnt because they look at it like that. its because they look at the hormone levels in your blood fluctuating due to not shooting prop ed. fluctuating hormone levels = side effects, so if your not shooting at least eod you are kinda screwing yourself over a bit.

[Anavar Man]

Anyone,
Looking for some more feedback on taking sust. twice per week at 250mg. I realize that ED or EOD is the proper way to use it. I will take it for 5 weeks and then switch to Test E at 500mg pwk.

AM

[marcus300]

Anyone,
Looking for some more feedback on taking sust. twice per week at 250mg. I realize that ED or EOD is the proper way to use it. I will take it for 5 weeks and then switch to Test E at 500mg pwk.

AM

i cant see why you wont take the advice of most people on your thread, first if your using sus it should be shot at EOD, this is the best way to get the best out of the sus, also i wouldnt change it after 5 weeks and go on test E, either choose one or the other, i think that would be the best bet for you..

[G-1000]

This is for the lazy assholes that wont clik on the link.


A new look into doing Sustanon250 by basskiller

As you can see by the numbers, the quickest way to get the sust levels in your blood stream at a constant maximum level is to shoot ed.
By the middle of week 1, your there, except for a few milligrams.


On a 3cc case, each hash mark equals 25mgs of sust
So to shoot
200mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 3/4 of a ml
150mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 1/2 of a ml
100mgs would be 4 hash marks or a little under 1/2 of a ml


Also to do this you will need a sterile 40 or 50 ml empty vial to switch all the sust amps into.
basskiller

days.. amount taken.......the amount in the blood stream
1 ..............200mgs ................190mgs
2 ..............200 .......................351
3 ..............200 .......................487
4 ..............150 .......................555
5 ..............150 .......................612
6 ..............100 .......................613
7 ..............100 .......................614
Week 2
8 ..............100 .......................615
9 ..............100 .......................616
10.............100 .......................616
11.............100 .......................617
12.............100 .......................617
13.............100 .......................617
14.............100 .......................618
Week 3
15............100 .......................618
16............100 .......................618
17............100 .......................618
18............100 .......................618
19............100 .......................618
20............100 .......................619
21............100 .......................619
Week 4
22............100 .......................619
23............100 .......................619
24............100 .......................619
25............100 .......................619
26............100 .......................619
27............100 .......................619
28............100 .......................619
Week 5
29...,........100 .......................619
30............100 .......................619
31............100 .......................619
32............100 .......................619
33............100 .......................619
34............100 .......................619
35............100 .......................619
Week 6
36............100 .......................619
37............100 .......................619
38............100 .......................619
39............100 .......................619
40............100 .......................619
41............100 .......................619
42............100 .......................619
Week 7
43............100 .......................619
44............100 .......................619
45............100 .......................619
46............100 .......................619
47............100 .......................619
48............100 .......................619
49............100 .......................619
Week 8
50............100 .......................619
51............100 .......................619
52............100 .......................619
53............100 .......................619
54............100 .......................619
55............100 .......................619
56............100 .......................619


Also you can see by the numbers...
Your shooting 700mgs a week, with the exception of the 1st week,
That your only really doing 619mgs.



Question:

So we all have heard that more even T levels (ED injections) means less side effects, right? Why is that? Can someone briefly expand on this idea? What are some other reasons for keeping our T levels as even as possible? Looking for input here to put a reason behind the technique...

as posted by 46and2aheadofme (the same who made the graph) Thanks 46

Answer:

Ok lets see if we can put this into perspective... I've asked some of who I feel are the most knowledgeable guys on these boards about this to see if they agree and yes, so far everyone seems to be on the same page

The best way to put it is as Andy said .. I'm paraphrasing here


Many, guys say that dbol is many times more effective when taken throughout the day, Bill Roberts included.
There seem to be less sides and more gains as opposed to just taking it 1 or 2 times daily....

The only difference between taking it 1 to 2 times a day and throughout the day is the stability in the blood .

The higher injection frequency = stable blood levels = better gains and or less sides is simply an extension of this analogy.

There's no doubt that people gain from injecting sustanon 1x/week... But, at least in theory, it would be better if split up..
The magnitude of the difference in blood levels increases with dose..
So the need to split up the injections increases with the dose and may not be that big of a deal on small cycles.






Here is the normal 3 times a week chart

Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just Here is Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just develops a pattern after week 7


1 ...250 .......................238
2 ...0 ..........................201
3 ...250 .......................409
4 ...0 ..........................346
5 ...250 .......................532
6 ...0 ..........................451
7 ...0 ..........................384
Week 2
8 ...250 .......................566
9 ...0 ..........................480
10...250 .......................646
11...0 ..........................547
12...250 .......................703
13...0 ..........................595
14...0 ..........................507
Week 3
15...250 .......................672
16...0 ..........................569
17...250 .......................722
18...0 ..........................611
19...250 .......................758
20...0 ..........................642
21...0 ..........................547
Week 4
22...250 .......................706
23...0 ..........................598
24...250 .......................747
25...0 ..........................632
26...250 .......................776
27...0 ..........................657
28...0 ..........................560
Week 5
29...250 .......................717
30...0 ..........................607
31...250 .......................755
32...0 ..........................639
33...250 .......................782
34...0 ..........................662
35...0 ..........................564
Week 6
36...250 .......................721
37...0 ..........................610
38...250 .......................757
39...0 ..........................641
40...250 .......................784
41...0 ..........................663
42...0 ..........................656
Week 7
43...250 .......................722
44...0 ..........................611
45...250 .......................758
46...0 ..........................642
47...250 .......................784
48...0 ..........................664
49...250 .......................566
Week 8
50...250 .......................722
51...0 ..........................611
52...250 .......................758
53...0 ..........................642
54...250 .......................784
55...0 ..........................664
56...0...........................566

[G-1000]

I refuse to get into this debate agene. for you guys that think sust should be shoot 2x a week go right a head. i dont really give a shit what you do. But if you wont to most bank for your buck shoot ed or eod.

[tranzit]

shoot 250mg on monday and thursday with sust and you will be fine.
Alot of what you need to understand is that you dont know what these guys are shooting or most of that for that matter dont know either. By that i mean. we have the UG guys most of who have NO clue as to what dosage they are taking or if what they are taking even has what they think it has in it. They see one lab test on one batch and all of a sudden the shit is legit!
Further more there is another group who **** with the VET drugs. They again are NOT the same as Pharm drugs. Take two LEGIT amps of sust 250 by organon, or omnadren by jefla a week and i think you will understand what im talking about. BTW i didnt see is this your first cycle? you are 37 so im wondering? if it isnt you should add a few more things to that. If it is your first you need to make sure you have your PCT correct.

[tranzit]

[tranzit]

just to clarify, 500 isnt the end all be all... but if its your first cycle and you are new 1g of test is not needed... but i am taking 1500 right now. As marcus said it works well for him. I agree works well for me too.

[tranzit]

speaking of which... its pokey pokey time. brb

[marcus300]

I refuse to get into this debate agene. for you guys that think sust should be shoot 2x a week go right a head. i dont really give a shit what you do. But if you wont to most bank for your buck shoot ed or eod.

totaly agree
ive done them all and above is correct

[Anavar Man]

Tranzit,
This is my second cycle in the last 1 1/2 years. I did two others in my early twenties. I appreciate your take on the legit pharmacy gear. I will go with the 250mg's twice a week and see what happens. I seem to respond pretty well to test.

AM

[tranzit]

id add deca @ 400mg a week and dbol at 30mg a day for 6 weeks. also. 500 mg is a newbie test cycle.

[Anavar Man]

I will be doing Anavar at 50mg per day weeks 4-12 of a 15 week cycle.I think 500mg will be ok, my receptors should be fairly clean. 1-5 will be the Sust. and 6-15 will be the Test E.

[Hellmaskbanned]

that shit is funny.