I wouldn't run HCG and clomid together.
Using slin on training days only and small dosages (relatively) mean time of can be less ime.
once I would have run a 12 weeker, no longer, you lose so much in the time between your last shot and starting pct, you have no natural test and no exogenous test either, never found that worked. I like short/medium cycles. The andropen or any longer acting ester kicks in sooner than I ever realised, and yes the andropen will be leaving the system in the remaining three weeks, hence the short acting esters added here, come week 9 I am on PCT.
I will gain and keep more on this cycle compared to running 12 weeks of andropen, but I suppose alot of all this is down to personal experience and the old "what works for one..."




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