I may be young, but the knowledge base and the institution as well as the numerous amounts of Doctors and Vets and even veterans I have talked too have led to this theory of a "Shock" cycle. I do understand and respect that experience beats any theory and I take it in stride greatfully, that's why I put the message on the board and waited for your replies. So here goes in the reply:

BIG PETE: Why no tapering on a test? If I just drop off from 900mg of AS to nothing, isn't that just asking for side effects?

THE ORIGINAL JASON: Thanks for the advice on the Clen and the Clomid, I'll use it wisely. But the amount that Nolva lowers your IGF-1 isn't significant enough to render the AS useless, as gains are important, so is not having gyno. Yikes. And in regards to your comment about having "one post and never used juice before and so what", no disrespect but it's an ignorant comment. My posts have no regard to my crediblity, for all you know I can have a Phd in Anabolic Steroids. They do, on the other hand, account for a reputation. And I do get that. For a second, ignore the fact that I'm 20 years old and I've never sauced it up before, would the theory intrigue you and make some sense, or would you say the same thing? Knowledge and research doesn't have an age or experience limit. Even though I've never juiced it up before, there was a time where you haven't either, but you knew guys who did. Us young guys aren't as dumb as we used to be and AS is more rampant than ever before, and in my line of work and education, you learn and absorb everyday.

JOHN HUBBARD: Thanks for the heads up on the Cortisol not being shut down, but I won't be at the point where it'll end up, in theory, not producing. But it's still good to know. Isn't Deca known for lubricating the joints and easing pain in those who claim sores and aches? In regards to your ratio of 51:49, why not bump it up for maximum potential by higher doeses. A pro informed me that after 1000mg of AS, everything else above that mark is exponential. The reason for keeping the salts and sodium low has no relation to the estrogen binding effects, you're right, but males who have a higher number of fat cells (obese or overweight before puberty) have a tendency to carry fat in their nipples. Water retention or fatty deposits can also replicate gyno in the pec. It's either Nolva's or Arimidex's job to stop the binding in the receptors.

METHUSALA: I understand the dose is relatively high, and it's a shock to the body, but that's what it's purpose is. Since the Sust is a fast acting AS, each of the 4 synthetics will be kicking in at a different time, at an enormous amount. I don't fully understand what you mean by a "heart attack waiting to happen". Toxic levels and being in pain, the pro's use amounts that make what I propose look like a bag of shit. I'm sure that they started slow and that some live off of AS year round, but they don't seem to be in any pain...right now. Also, you mention taking 500 Sustanon with 400mg Deca without tapering and right off the bat. That's 900mg compared to 750mg, won't I still have a "heart attack". An oxymoron?

EYE_CANDY: Dan D? Bodyopious? Thanks for the 411, I'll be sure to pick it up ASAP. I understand that for big gains takes big committment and a steady, consistent and timed eating plan. I have reached my plateau and it's time for a kick-start. Vroom vroom.

In NO way do I mean any disrespect to anyone who messaged back, I do respect the fact that you've all been here much longer than me and I just want to remind you that I do welcome the criticism and suggestions, but details as to WHY it won't work and what will would be appreciated so I get a full understanding of what exactly is happening in the human body. Thanks for the replies!

For all us young guys, take the time out to thoroughly study and understand what's happening to your body while taking AS and how it's happening, it's a worthwhile investment of your time and ask reliable sources for info. Let's prove to these "geritols" that we can be somewhat competent in a juice forum! (haha)

Peace