I'm going with a conservative dose of 20mg ED for 4 weeks. Phera Plex is supposed to be androgenic so I wanted to run a low dose for my first cycle. The sides are actually more harsh with Phera Plex than with 4AD. The problem is, 4AD is banned in the US. I've experienced more facial acne with Phera Plex and it is supposed to be harder on your liver and cardiovascular health than 4AD. Phera Plex has been harsher on my hairline than 4AD was, as well. Orals, generally, are much harder on your system.Originally Posted by KAZUYA MISHIMA