Beginner Cycle? More Questions

[marcus300]

RESPONSE: Dude....don't know where you got this BS~`t from but..... your body basically produces about 5-7mgs of Test per day (that's if you are in your twenties...do more research). That means 7x7 is 49 or 50 mgs of test per week....thats it. 250 mgs per week is about 5 times the normal range...read up before you start doling out advice.

1rst point. You guys are prescibing WAY TOO much juice for a first timer. NO-ONE...i repeat....NO-ONE...can tell another Human being how much juice they absolutely must do to be successfull.....too many variables to consider.

2nd point. Length of cycle. 10-12 wks....maybe...for some...but again...he doesn't know what will work for him....remember...its his first cycle....he may be fine with 6 weeks....Just because YOU were successful following a 12 wk program....doesn't mean that everyone else will get the same results...I have actually gotten GREAT RESULTS from 4 weeks....How do you like that! Don't believe me....too bad! There's plenty of research to back up my claims....don't need to defend it here!

BOTTOM LINE. Each person must learn his-her body and how each AAS affects their body....PERIOD!


JS

The quoted dose is the average dose for first timers to grow, its been well research and thats the average, yes your right some grow on less some dont grow on 500, its what you call experimenting with your body, how else will he find out what works or doesnt,

he will also find out by doing such a cycle how he responds to the gear and the lenght, if he docoments the results he will be able to work out whats best for him for the next cycle, he as to start somewhere and why not at the average?

your statement saying "Each person must learn his-her body and how each AAS affects their body....PERIOD!" how can he do that without trying the average dose first?
he as to start somewhere,why not the average

[johnsiegal]

The quoted dose is the average dose for first timers to grow, its been well research and thats the average, yes your right some grow on less some dont grow on 500, its what you call experimenting with your body, how else will he find out what works or doesnt,

he will also find out by doing such a cycle how he responds to the gear and the lenght, if he docoments the results he will be able to work out whats best for him for the next cycle, he as to start somewhere and why not at the average?

your statement saying "Each person must learn his-her body and how each AAS affects their body....PERIOD!" how can he do that without trying the average dose first?
he as to start somewhere,why not the average

Marcus...not trying to flame you mate....as a matter of fact...i have alot more respect for you then most people on this board...i solute you for the courage to stand up for some of PBourenson's (PB) ideas and philosophy (many of which i subscribe to and use).

Now...back to the subject at hand. I don't think that 500mgs is a beginners dosage....NO SIR!

I think a 200 mg dose for about 8 wks would be MORE THAN enough to get results for a beginner. But....as i said....that's my personal OPINION...and i even though i'be been juicen for over 10 yrs....i really don't know the original posters blood work, body type, diet, excersize program, sleep habits, etc.

As you know...PB produced some Great short cycles...

My philosophy with AAS....do the least amount neccessary...and take your time growing.....Rome wasn't built overnight...!

Peace!

[marcus300]

Marcus...not trying to flame you mate....as a matter of fact...i have alot more respect for you then most people on this board...i solute you for the courage to stand up for some of PBourenson's (PB) ideas and philosophy (many of which i subscribe to and use).

Now...back to the subject at hand. I don't think that 500mgs is a beginners dosage....NO SIR!

I think a 200 mg dose for about 8 wks would be MORE THAN enough to get results for a beginner. But....as i said....that's my personal OPINION...and i even though i'be been juicen for over 10 yrs....i really don't know the original posters blood work, body type, diet, excersize program, sleep habits, etc.

As you know...PB produced some Great short cycles...

My philosophy with AAS....do the least amount neccessary...and take your time growing.....Rome wasn't built overnight...!

Peace!

No problem,

i was just stating he had to start somewhere and why not at the average dose for first timers, then he can judge what works or doesnt,