Has anyone else found that high doses dont change their sides? just curious cuz im on a shit load and havent got anything beside slight zitties.
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Has anyone else found that high doses dont change their sides? just curious cuz im on a shit load and havent got anything beside slight zitties.
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Is it proper gear??
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Wait and see what it does to your prostate after a while.Originally Posted by GetHugeDieTrying
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I was wondering the same thing? not to hijack but my training bro is 5 weeks into a test/tren enthanate cycle @ 1400mg each, and he is feeling no significant sides besides acne as well, and he is running no SERMS or AI! His first cycle was the standard 500mg test for 12 weeks, so i was suprised such a big jump wouldn't fry him, but maybe its still too early? any body else out there like this?
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elaborate on this for me bro.....
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I almost think its an illusion to need to do this type of high dose... I have done it before, up to 1500 mg a week in testosterone... you dont really gain much because the higher the doses you are on, the faster you LOOSE it in PCT... gains made with lower doses are way more keepable for some reason... you also dont get the sides... I did 1000 mg test and 600 mg deca last time... got acne up the ass, sex drive was in the toilet... this time I decided to try a moderate 250 mg tren E per week and 400 mg test E... well I have totally clear back with no acne... sex drive is best its ever been, jacking off or having real sex with wife multiple times per day... happy disposition, absolutely NONE of the trenbalone side effects others talk about, no insomnia, no night sweats, no roid rage... and I am currently growing faster then I have have with any cycle before and its very DRY growth... new veins I never had before popping out, skin is becoming paper thin, muscles looking awesome, people asking me how a 40 year old can have a body of a well built 25 year old but I have that look (because 4 pack is obvious). Well that shredded look, lack of acne, dry cut physique isnt possible with overdoses of testosterone because water bloat to hell.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but 1500mg/wk of test really isnt all too high. The dosages dont mean anything about retaining during and after PCT, however with a really high dose much more will convert to estradiol leading to water retention and extra fat which will give the appearance of loosing more gains, b/c you will drop more bodyweight.
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No bubble bursted... I think you got it and I meant the same thing you are saying.. I am just well really likely the dry vascular growth from tren and lower doses of testosterone... the sex drive is way better when there is less estrogen production and I dont see where I grew any faster on 1000 or 1500 mg then now at 400...
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.. really? thats quite a difference to not notice anything...growth wise...
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sounds like lack of calories maybe. you can only grow as much as your body has the calories for and at 1500mg you would need lots to reach full growth potential.
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higher doses rape me as far as sexual performance 2.5+grams per week of test = no sex for me ...
anyways my lil rant .. i dont think at 180 u shud be on high doses, and im pretty sure ur not 5% bf thats DIFFICULT to maintain w/o being an ethiopian.
and im not sure about the shitload dose either .. is that a GRAM? 2grams?
750?!
something about this just doesnt add up .. oh well.
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2.5 g's kills ur sex drive...why is that...
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i not sure.. could be like a negative feed back look of some sort thats reached, could be from the really nice lethargy that comes w/ it...
everyone is diff but i know a few people that run doses simliar to what i run and htey have the same effects..
Hot
tired
lazy
and no very horny.
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thats some crazy shit...when u come off does ur sex drive come back to normal. or are u on all the time...
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come off????
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I've done low dose cycles (250mg of Test, 500mg of Test, etc..) and I've done Test 2+grams (along with other things ) and honestly, I didn't see that much of a MAJOR difference. I didn't get any noticeable sides either. I didn't even gain any water. However, what I did see was sides that cannot be detected unless going to a Dr. Like HIGH cholesterol, HIGH Liver values, etc... After being off for now for 5 months, I will NEVER EVER go higher than 500mg again. I've been on only 250mg of Test for about a month and I already see a BIG differernce in the way I look.
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[QUOTE=taiboxa] and im pretty sure ur not 5% bf thats DIFFICULT to maintain w/o being an ethiopian.QUOTE]
hahaha..Tai, it always kills me when you refer to that...
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[QUOTE=goalseeker]ITS my word of the day..and im pretty sure ur not 5% bf thats DIFFICULT to maintain w/o being an ethiopian.QUOTE]
hahaha..Tai, it always kills me when you refer to that...
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close to what you saw when you were on the higher doses, or if less, how much less?
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[QUOTE=taiboxa]
...lol
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higher doses = more growth for me.. though the growth slows down
of course i grow more on 2.8g as i do to 2g but the difference between 1g and 2g is tremendous as far as diff in gains but gains from 2g to 2.8g isnt as big.
DID That make any sense im so ****gin carb depleted
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hmm, strange it effects sex drive. do you take an anti e?
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Well, I honestly wouldn't compare doing 2grams of Test to 250mg of Test. But, For a 1 1/2 of being on and experimenting a ton with different doses, I just wasn't to impressed with doing cycles over a gram. But, my health is way to important to me, and I am not going to do high doses anymore. yes, everyone is different, and everyone reacts differently, but in my mind, if you can't get big off of 500mg of Test, there are other issues. I believe, as long as you come off and give your body ample to get back to normal, one can get size of a normal dose of test.
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great info.. thx bro..
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No problem bro anytime. If you have any questions ever, hit me up.
Peace,
BLT
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Here is a link from a few years ago proving that a low dose cycle does work!!!!
http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=58158
BLT
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I started using in early 20's, for ten years I seen no real side effects other than acne and agresssion. Early 30's I noticed I needed to add anti-e's as I was developing gyno. 34 is when I started having problems with my prostate.(It swells up and pushes on your bladder sending a message to your brain that you need to piss all the time, very uncomfortable) so now with anti-e's I had to add finaerside to try to shrink the prostate. I also started blood tests in my 30's and of course liver values were through the roof. I discontued my last cycle as I was developing serious heart pains 4 or 5 times a day. Their is a cause for every action. I abused steriods and I'm sure I will pay for it sooner than later.(2 g of test, 900mg tren, 1 gram deca, 1g Eq, (weekly) 50mg of d-bol(dayly) 5iu of Gh, 20iu of insulin(dayly) is just an example of what I used to take for years at a time. I am sure my my heart is the size of a grapefruit. I am not bashing steriods, I am bashing the abusers of this drug. Steriods used in moderation for short periods of time, and with proper amount of time off, is quite likely harmless. Just be smart. MORE IS NOT BETTER.
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letro ;D actually i kant remember may of been Arimi at that time.. oh so much krap in my system i dont remember any more
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interesting, for me even over 2 g ew i can bang the old lady 3 or 4 x daily. as long as she can handle it. plus i'm old. seems anything over 700 or so and it's like i'm 16 again, espeacially higher dosesletro ;D actually i kant remember may of been Arimi at that time.. oh so much krap in my system i dont remember any more
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BUYLONGTERM.. do you think 100mg of Prop ed is too much? 6'4" 190lbs
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