Is Nolvadex Really The Answer?

[Black R/T]

i read something a little while ago about nolvadex actually inhibiting muscle growth along with a number of other effects and that there are better medicines out there that work even better. Can anyone ellaborate on this subject? im trying to plan my next cycle and already have the nolva, should i order something else. heres a link to the page http://www.anabolic-androgenic-stero...d-nolvadex.htm

[beezlebubb666]

save your nolva for pct... while on use something like lectro.. or ldex

[Black R/T]

bump for more info

[Paulywalnuts446]

interested too bump

[BG]

Many people like to go with L-dex during because it helps with estrogen levels will increasing natural test levls.

[BG]

Many people like to go with L-dex during because it helps with estrogen levels(keeping water retention to a minimum) while increasing natural test levls.

[tvd220]

i hurd from here that nolva is the way to go for pct, but im not too sure about durring cycle

[Paulywalnuts446]

so can you take just ldex instead of novla during cycle without being more pron to gyno? or take both b/c right now im taking both on my cycle..\

1- 14 test 500mg
1 - 13 EQ 400mg
1 - 10 fina 100mg eod

[usamm]

Arimidex is better.

[Black R/T]

ive read that arimidex is best but its very expensive compared. might be worth it.

[Papi93]

ive read that arimidex is best but its very expensive compared. might be worth it.

The price isn't bad if you buy AR's liquidex.

[havok561]

but for pct, can I take nolva and liquidex, or nolva liquidex and clomid, from what ive read, liquidex gets rid of estrogen and helps bring test levels back up, is this correct

[DSM4Life]

I take nolva through out my entire cycle which i am on now). When it comes to gyno i would rather prevent it then try and cure it.

[havok561]

but im just wondering if I should take liquidex with clomid, or what do you guys usually take with liquidex of clomid for PCT

[havok561]

Im taking Nolva now, im not sure if im prone to gyno or not, was thinking I could take a little liquidex with the nolva and clomid for pct, I know some people start gettin blurry vision with clomid, and they recommend to get off of it if it occurs, so would I take liquidex with nolva as an alternative????

[Papi93]

but for pct, can I take nolva and liquidex, or nolva liquidex and clomid, from what ive read, liquidex gets rid of estrogen and helps bring test levels back up, is this correct

I've taken 20mg nolva, 100mg clomid, and 0.25mg arimidex ED for 4 weeks, as my last PCT.

Nolva and clomid return test levels to normal. Arimidex raises test levels above normal, without being suppressive.

[Papi93]

but im just wondering if I should take liquidex with clomid, or what do you guys usually take with liquidex of clomid for PCT

I didn't like the side effect of emotional disturbances, while on clomid. It felt like I was going to cry, anytime anything depressing happened. I like 40mg nolva and 0.25mg arimidex ED for 4 weeks now.

[Papi93]

Im taking Nolva now, im not sure if im prone to gyno or not, was thinking I could take a little liquidex with the nolva and clomid for pct, I know some people start gettin blurry vision with clomid, and they recommend to get off of it if it occurs, so would I take liquidex with nolva as an alternative????

You don't know if you are going to experience the sides unless you use clomid. If you want to be on the safe side, you could double your nolva dose and take arimidex as well.

[havok561]

so people take Nolva and Liquidex together, or Nolva and Clomid, and its all on preference then

[Papi93]

so people take Nolva and Liquidex together, or Nolva and Clomid, and its all on preference then

You could also run 20mg nolva and 100mg clomid ED for 4 weeks and then follow that with arimidex at 0.5mg ED for 4 weeks. In these last four weeks, you will nearly double your test levels.

[havok561]

taking all three of them for 4 weeks for pct right?

[Papi93]

taking all three of them for 4 weeks for pct right?

That's the most popular method to take them:

100mg clomid, 20mg nolva, and 0.25mg arimidex ED for 4 weeks.

[falcons 84]

good read

[Black R/T]

i can attest to the sides of clomid, ive been on it for 2 weeks now and just realized that ive been acting wierd and been gettin all worked up over dumb shit. the link at my first post on this thread brings you to a page that talks about it and makes some interesting points.

[Outlaw**]

Do you run these all during your cycle or after your last shot?

[Black R/T]

depends, if you start showing gyno signs during the cycle you can head them off using nolvadex or arimidex. some people like to start at the beginning of their cycle with nolva. others say wait a certain amount of time after youre cycle, which varies between gears

[havok561]

so what can you take in place of clomid, Im on Nolva now, and I will be on it im assuming for PCT as well, I just dont want to take clomid with it, any alternatives that I can take with nolva for pct

[Papi93]

so what can you take in place of clomid, Im on Nolva now, and I will be on it im assuming for PCT as well, I just dont want to take clomid with it, any alternatives that I can take with nolva for pct

You could include arimidex at 0.25mg ED. It wouldn't be a substitute for clomid because clomid is a SERM and arimidex is an AI. Nolva is a SERM, as well.

[Ufa]

You could include arimidex at 0.25mg ED. It wouldn't be a substitute for clomid because clomid is a SERM and arimidex is an AI. Nolva is a SERM, as well.

Will arimidex@ alone do the trick?

[Papi93]

Will arimidex@ alone do the trick?

Some say it is. Others say that it lowers estrogen so much that it is hard on your blood lipid profiles. Nolva and clomid are supposed to help blood lipid profiles. I have come to this conclusion:

40mg nolva and 0.25mg arimidex.

[Outlaw**]

How does this sound? 20 mg nolva and 0.25 mg arimidex with creatine and t-3 for pct? 40mg sounds like alot of nolva? Let me know why you say 40mg instead of 20mg? Everywhere I read everyone takes 20mg ed.

[Papi93]

How does this sound? 20 mg nolva and 0.25 mg arimidex with creatine and t-3 for pct? 40mg sounds like alot of nolva? Let me know why you say 40mg instead of 20mg? Everywhere I read everyone takes 20mg ed.

You are taking the clomid out, that's why I said to bump it to 40mg. Creatine is a good addition to PCT but I would not do T3 during PCT.

[stocky121]

You are taking the clomid out, that's why I said to bump it to 40mg. Creatine is a good addition to PCT but I would not do T3 during PCT.

agreed no T3 for pct what made you think this ????

use clen instead