start nolva 18 days after first cyp shot or with first shot?

**guest589745** · 03-02-2006, 05:47 PM

I should know this but, start the nolva 18 days after first cyp shot or just the same day as the first shot?

**guest589745** · 03-02-2006, 07:23 PM

bump

***SPIKE*** · 03-02-2006, 08:32 PM

I think no one is helping you with this b/c the question is confusing.

You had to make a mistake somewhere. 18 days is most commonly used to refer to the PCT start time of Test Cyp. Why do you keep saying "after first shot?" What exactly are you using the nolva for?

**scotttiger54** · 03-02-2006, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by Jayhova

I think no one is helping you with this b/c the question is confusing.

You had to make a mistake somewhere. 18 days is most commonly used to refer to the PCT start time of Test Cyp. Why do you keep saying "after first shot?" What exactly are you using the nolva for?

i think he means when should he start running the nolva as a anti e supplement during his cycle. if this is his question, i believe he should start running it 2wks before the cycle even starts to get the full benefit from it. i personally feel nolva sucks for this purpose. L'dex or letro is far more effective

**guest589745** · 03-02-2006, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

i think he means when should he start running the nolva as a anti e supplement during his cycle. if this is his question, i believe he should start running it 2wks before the cycle even starts to get the full benefit from it. i personally feel nolva sucks for this purpose. L'dex or letro is far more effective

Thank you.

**guest589745** · 03-02-2006, 10:28 PM

looks like Im gonna have to start it now then. I already took my first shot today.

**hosam4ever** · 03-03-2006, 07:04 AM

u have 807 posts & dont know how 2 use nolva ??????????

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by hosam4ever

u have 807 posts & dont know how 2 use nolva ??????????

Proof positve...post count does not equal intelegence on gear use.

***SPIKE*** · 03-03-2006, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by damiongage

Proof positve...post count does not equal intelegence on gear use.

Wow I guess so, It's always better to ask then assume but dam.........

Why would you wait 18 days to start Nolva after your cycle anyway?

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by hosam4ever

u have 807 posts & dont know how 2 use nolva ??????????

yea, I know. I thought I should start it with my first shot but, Im just kinda nervous and I just wanna be sure.

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by damiongage

Proof positve...post count does not equal intelegence on gear use.

Nor does my question mean that I'm ignorant.

***SPIKE*** · 03-03-2006, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Im just kinda nervous and I just wanna be sure.

Always better to post and be sure rather then curious. Never second guess yourself when de****g with AAS, good job on posting the question.

Was just alittle confusing at first thats why it went untouched for some time.......

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Jayhova

Wow I guess so, It's always better to ask then assume but dam.........

Why would you wait 18 days to start Nolva after your cycle anyway?

Eh I was just being a nervous-over-analyzer of the active life of it I suppose.

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by damiongage

Proof positve...post count does not equal intelegence on gear use.

You came into this thread to just say that? Thanks!

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Nor does my question mean that I'm ignorant.

actually it does....

ignorance

n : the lack of knowledge or education

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

You came into this thread to just say that? Thanks!

Sorry...but yes you should know this before you decided to poke yourself.

Are you refering to during your cycle or PCT???

I would run .25mg l-dex and 10mg nolva throughout my cycle. (From day 1)

pct would be 18days after last shot at 20mg ed nolva....along with clomid.

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by damiongage

actually it does....

ignorance

n : the lack of knowledge or education

eh you know what I mean ****er.

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 04:44 PM

I got it. It was my fault that my question sounded confusing. I basically already knew my own damn answer but, I was nervous. It's done.

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

I was nervous.

That is to be expected....good luck with your cycle....

ps....if you not running an AI (l-dex)...I highly recomend it.

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by damiongage

ps....if you not running an AI (l-dex)...I highly recomend it.

well I basically got 14 mgs in case of gyno but, I never considered using it during. What dose, .25mg? Why do you recomend this?

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 09:46 PM

Nolvadex does not prevent aromatization, it blocks estrogen receptors. This leaves alot of free estrogen floating around in the system. Once you stop the Nolva...you may still have gyno problems. A rebound effect if you will.

Ever hear someone ask why they got gyno after a cycle?

AI's (l-dex) will prevent aromatization. lowering the amount of estrogen in the body.

.25mg l-dex and 10mg nolva(just incase) is what I run....

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 09:51 PM

Hmmm, but arent there benefits of estrogen in the body? I haev been lead to believe nolva is basically all I might need.

If there is a risk of "rebounding" after nolva, isnt there the same risk of the body rebounding after L-dex is discontinued too, to the same extent? I need to read the profile.

I am probably getting some HCG as well.

**brutesinme** · 03-03-2006, 09:56 PM

if you want to avoid eliminating all estrogen, try taking aromadex instead of letro. Buy some letro to take care of possible gyno though

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 09:59 PM

I have 14mg of l-dex

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by brutesinme

if you want to avoid eliminating all estrogen, try taking aromadex instead of letro. Buy some letro to take care of possible gyno though

l-dex is arimidex...not letro.

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Hmmm, but arent there benefits of estrogen in the body? I haev been lead to believe nolva is basically all I might need.

If there is a risk of "rebounding" after nolva, isnt there the same risk of the body rebounding after L-dex is discontinued too, to the same extent? I need to read the profile.

you may not need anything....these are the precautions "I" take....and (knock on wood) I have never had any signs of gyno.

No l-dex stops the aromatization, meaning no convertion to estrogen, therfor no rebound. Also .25mg may not be enough to eliminate all estrogen, hence the nolva.

Outlaw** · 03-03-2006, 10:09 PM

Ive done some posts on this subject and done alot of research. Seems like the best thing would be to run 200mgs B6, .25mg arimidex, and 10mgs nolva. Thats what I'm gonna run in my next cycle.

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 10:12 PM

200mg b6 doesn't hurt....especially if you are running deca or tren.

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 10:45 PM

So should PCT change then if ldex is incuded?

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 10:48 PM

for PCT I run 20mg Nolva ed and 100mg clomid ed for 30 days. No l-dex...alot of people continue with the l-dex through pct, but I have seen no advantage of doing that.

**guest589745** · 03-03-2006, 10:52 PM

gotcha

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