About clen

[playboii]

wasup bros I havent been in the AAS scene for a while but since the summer is coming up I decided to cut down...I just ordered some clen from ARR I took 1 pump = 20mcg first thing around 1 didnt really feel much..so then around 3 took another pump another 20mcg..and I still dont really feel anything..Im not going to take another because I read in the handbook the reccomended is 20mcg but i've read of people taking 40mcg but I still dont feel much..is there anything im doing wrong?

[vnv]

Here's my take. I personally don't understand when I see people starting clen at 20mcg for the first two or three days. Isn't that low? If your metabolism is naturally very high, you get hyperactive throughout the day, have a hard time sleeping at night, and are a hard-gainer ecto, like I am, you may need to start at some higher dose because your body naturally behaves like it's on a low level of stimulants. When I run clen, I start with 60mcg/day--the lowest dose I can begin feeling the clen.

Maybe you fit the same profile as me and just need to start higher.

Have others been low-responsive to clen like it appears playboii and I are?

[SS1476]

playboii, its been a
while since you posted.
I never went over 120mcg ED
and never taking it after 6 pm,
so that it will supside,and sleep
will be easier. Check out the
profile, it will help you out. Be
sure to monitor your BP and
resting HR.

welcome to vnv

[playboii]

I read the hand book and all but I also read from people that if varys on your body..so is going to 60mcg the first day a little crazy? because I did 40mcg already and really dont feel anything at all..

[SS1476]

You should notice some
shakes, I do @ 40mcg. I dont
think 40mcg ED is alot, but you
should also montior, like I stated.
Take some reading before, and
compare them while on clen. I
notice a big difference, when I do.
I dont think going to 60 is crazy.

[playboii]

Im slightly shaky but nothing compared to what I've read on the forum nothing noticeable

[C_Bino]

In my experience with clen I would say it all depends on the user. I can take clen and go right to sleep, I have also taken 150mcg's in one serving without a single shake or elevated heart rate. It is a good idea to start low just to see how your body reacts to it, that way you can judge how much you can take at a single time, how late in the day you can take it if it keeps you up etc. Like steroids...some people get acne some dont...just because you dont experience sides doesnt mean it isnt working. Just keep upping the dose by 20-40mcg each day and see how you do man.

-Bino

[playboii]

how much those temperature thing costs? I have to go out and buy me one

[SS1476]

I paid under 50 bucks for
a good BP wrist monitor.

[Dru]

Not unusual at all Playboii, it takes 100mcgs for me to feel anything off clen, so you're not alone on the high tolerance thing. From what I understand clen effects everyone differently, but the quality of the clen will be a factor as well. Some clen is cut more pure than others. For example, one labs 20mcgs might be the equivalent of 30mcgs from another lab and so forth.

[playboii]

I got it from ARR I ready many good reviews on it..today is my 2nd day and i took 60mcg and I still dont feel anything like "wow is working" feeling

[Dru]

Remember to keep the 35hr half-life rule in mind when it comes to clen. You took 60mcgs today, which means that tomorrow, depending on when you take another 60mcgs, you will actually have about 90+mcgs circulating through your system due to the 1/2life rule of your previous dose. Many people don't take this into consideration when supplementing clenbuterol and this is why it can be dangerous. 60mcgs might not seem all that bad now, but in 3 or 4 days when the accumulation of the half-lives add up there will be over 100mcgs in your system at any given time. My advice is to look ahead when on clen and take into consideration the 1/2life rule. You'll need to do a little math to figure it all out. Also keeping in mind that clen won't completely leave your system for a good 10 days.

[playboii]

damn thanks for letting me know lol i wont up it tom then..

[Dru]

Just for your own info if you're interested, use this rough formula to figure it all out.

Formula:

day 1 dosage/2 + day 2 dosage = amount of clen in your system on day 2.

*Each day the formula changes slightly, however it is important to keep track right from day 1. I'll explain: Day 2 is going to have atleast 1/2 of day 1's dosage still left over. Now for day 3 you need to factor in day 1+2's half-lives. To do this, take the sum from the original formula and divide it by 2, add it to day 3's dose and you now have the amount of clen in your system on day 3. Follow this formula for each consecutive day. You'll notice that it takes about 10-11 days for clen levels to reach equilibrium in your system when taking a set dosage every 24hrs. In your particular case, 60mcgs/day will level out at roughly 120mcgs in your system at equilibrium. Essentially what ever your daily dose is X2, will give you the amount of clen in your system at equilibrium.

[RA]

No comment.

[playboii]

im following the schedule on the clen handbook except i added 1 more dose each day..for the first 2 days

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100 mcg
Day14: 80 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

[THE_DOME]

basic clen question, should clen be used begining end of a cycle or by itself, i have heard 2wks on 2off

[Dru]

Tapering clen is not necessary due to it's long 1/2life. It has a natural taper effect even if you stop it abruptly. Your schedule is fine, but just so you know, you will have close to 200mcgs in your system on days 11&12 in your 1st cycle and well over that amount on days 8-13 during your 2nd cycle. That's a hefty, almost dangerous amount of clen for a human. I prefer a graduated approach up to a level amount. But in a nut shell, if you can handle that much clen then your schedule is ok. Lose the taper though, it's not necessary, just stop taking your clen after day 14. And don't forget your anti-hist.

Dome, 2wks on/2wks off is reasonable considering clen's 1/2 life. This method is best for people who are desensitized to clen, but you can benefit from clen's effects for up to 6wks before your receptors reasonably need rejuving. And even longer if you factor in an anti-histamine every few wks.

[THE_DOME]

Dome, 2wks on/2wks off is reasonable considering clen's 1/2 life. This method is best for people who are desensitized to clen, but you can benefit from clen's effects for up to 6wks before your receptors reasonably need rejuving



is clen usually used by itself with no test

[Dru]

I've never used test so I plead ignorance in this case. However, for fat loss I hear clen when combined with a thyro is quite potent! From what I'm hearing, clen and cytomel are a killer combo! But with all thyros, you need to be careful, you don't want to stay on them too long as your thyroid may become damaged. Tyrosine/phenylalanine combined with clen might be safer and almost just as good.

[playboii]

I wanted to ask on the 2 weeks on 2 weeks of for 12 weeks as the clen handbook says so that means ima have 6 weeks on of clen and 6 weeks off? so the last 2 remaining weeks im going to be off? because if i follow the on off on off the last 2 weeks of the 12 week is gona be off..so am i getting this right?

[SS1476]

I wanted to ask on the 2 weeks on 2 weeks of for 12 weeks as the clen handbook says so that means ima have 6 weeks on of clen and 6 weeks off? so the last 2 remaining weeks im going to be off? because if i follow the on off on off the last 2 weeks of the 12 week is gona be off..so am i getting this right?

playboii,you dont need to run it that
way, there is another choice via
the benadryl method. Like I said, I
would read the profile,and I think it
will be a little clearer for you.

I've never used test so I plead ignorance in this case. However, for fat loss I hear clen when combined with a thyro is quite potent! From what I'm hearing, clen and cytomel are a killer combo! But with all thyros, you need to be careful, you don't want to stay on them too long as your thyroid may become damaged. Tyrosine/phenylalanine combined with clen might be safer and almost just as good.

Clen and cytomel w/out test
will eat muscle,not what we want.

[Dru]

This is true, add the test if you're going this route. However, you could just skip the cytomel and, like I said, use the tamer tyrosine/phenylalanine combo.

[playboii]

OMGGGGGG I took 160mcgs of clen today and I felt like my heart was going to rip through my chest!..wierd because i felt alright at 140mcgs

[vacarski]

I'm picking up some clen tommarow and will probably start on saturday or sunday. I'm hoping to drop alot of body fat.

playboii, what kind of weight and body fat loss have you seen so far. Do you know what your starting weight and BF% was and what they are at now?

[Mike Dura]

Is fatigue common with clen? Does it generally make you feel like shit? Can you do hours of cardio on clen? These are the clen questions I ask.