Quote Originally Posted by sp9
I think it was your early cycles that started your way to the list you made. That last cycle is not out of line.

And for the guys saying 50mg of dbol is not alright for a 38 year old, your wrong. 4 weeks of dbol in a year @ 50mg is not going to hurt anyone who takes the right precautions like, ALA, Milk Thistle, and does not drink or take other drugs that work the liver for those 4 weeks. I'm 35, no problems with using dbol 4 weeks a year. Blood tests prove it. Also know people in their 40's that do not have a problem. You just have to watch you BP closer.

The early cycles probably messed up your nat. test production. The last cycle may have been the straw that broke the camels back, but I don't see too much wrong with it, if you executed it with PCT and supplements perfectly.
It seems a little heavy to me, was he training for a while or just woke up and stuck all this stuff in his body. How was his diet, what supplements was he taking? there is lots to consider with this. I have 2 buddies 35 and 41 that did 1CC of Sus and Winny pills toward the end of the cycle and the results were amazing and no side effects either. All of in our 30's fear these sides, hair loss, internal damage. Who wants to speed up dieing right, I think in your 30's if you plan to use, it should be kept at a minimum. Have some hit it very hard and had great results sure, but why use a 200 Shot of NOS on your engine when 150 is safer and still gives you results.I have a hard time buying what he did 18 years ago had a effect today, unless he was a major juice head at a early age.