Dont use AI's WITH Nolva!

[Georgie]

So its cool to run .25 l-dex and 10 nolva through out my cycle. And for pct run .25 l-dex and bump the nolva to 20mgs.

I would always recommend running nolva with an AI. AIs are harsh on your lipid profile. Nolva helps your lipid profile. Cholesterol is a silent killer. As Bask8kace states, we should all stop worrying so much about the cosmetic side effects that we can see, and worry more about the silent ones you cant see. Yes, by running nolva with your AI you may need to up the AI dose because nolva will decrease its effectiveness, but that price is worth paying when it comes to your health.

[QuieTSToRM33]

i did not quite hear that pinn can you say it again..........

haha ... that a boy

[ivrig]

weel of course, when you take like ari, there is no estro in your blood (almost), what`s the use of taking nolva then?

[stupidhippo]

well for one it acts as an estrogen agonist in some tissues which can be useful..

[ivrig]

yeah but with ari, the point is that there is NO estro there, so no need to block

whatever

[stupidhippo]

u didnt understand what I said.. the SERM acts AS estorgen in some tissues which can be beneficial..

[smmrsm2000]

Well I was kidding with you pinn but I dont see anything wrong with posting the study. All the info we can get is good and then we can decide what we personally want to do with it.

I suggest not running any anti e unless problems pop up until pct.

that's exactly what it says in the 'steroid profiles' section of this site....

[ODC0717]

Good post brutha!

[Swifto]

Well I was kidding with you pinn but I dont see anything wrong with posting the study. All the info we can get is good and then we can decide what we personally want to do with it.

I suggest not running any anti e unless problems pop up until pct.

Thank-you. This is exactly my thoughts and is what action I'll be taking.

If blood concentrations are compromised when using the 2 together. Why not, if you can, avoid it? Bumping the dose may be a solution, but isnt ideal for the cost side of things.

Agreed on the aromasin and what you stated as well.Couldn't have said it better myself

Outlaw..no confussion at all.Keep running your Nolv/ldex combo(or similar) and ignore the copy/paste nonsense.Some ppl try way to hard for recognition on this board,and it tends to backfire on them.

Nonsense? Ok....Study isnt perfect but I think we have established using the 2 (Letro/Nolva or Arimidex/Nolva) isnt optimal, which was the point of this thread. No recognition here. This thread was mearly meant to be an illistartion.

[magic32]

A voice of clarity in an otherwise confusing world...

Pinnacle - EVERYONE....CONTINUE TO RUN YOUR LDEX/NOLV COMBO AT YOUR DOSES>IF NEED BE UP THE LDEX TO .5 MGS AND THE NOLV TO 20 MG ED

Pinnacle - Some ppl try way to hard for recognition on this board,and it tends to backfire on them.

I wholeheartedly agree, not that the original post was an attempt at this, but it happens all to often. Admittedly, I to have succumbed.


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[BG]

I was running Letro alone, sex drive fell off so I decides to 1/2 the dosage and add Nolva to it. Within two days my nipples started to hurt againand lumps seemed to get bigger, so I cut letro out totally and pain seems to be going away. Ill hit this thread again in a few days to let you know if the size of my lumps have changed any.My 2 cents on subject.

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

My cholesterol is questionable at the moment so I believe I'm going to switch to Nolva/Aromasin at 20/20/ed and run that from now all the way through PCT. Is that exceptable? Too much aromasin Pinn? Need to change it up for PCT? Of course I'm running Clomid w/ my PCT I just wanted to know about these 2 drugs... I have letro and l-dex too...

[BajanBastard]

IMHO it depends on the doses and the type of drugs you're running. Ok we already established that nolva significantly reduces 3rd gen A.Is blood concentrations, meaning running both together is NOT optimal, right? Well, no not really. As I said before other factors must be considered, most importantly the drugs being used.

First let’s say it's your standard testosterone, EQ cycle (500 and 400mg respectively). In this case the letro/nolva combo (.5-1mg/10-20mg) would be ok. If need be just adjust the letro or nolva dosage.

2nd: If it's a cycle with hefty amounts of test and 19-nors, especially tren, IMO the nolva should be dropped (because of its pro progestinic properties) and letro (because it’s anti-progestinic) should be used only.

For PCT I think both should be used with a gradual taper off the A.I.

[Swifto]

IMHO it depends on the doses and the type of drugs you're running. Ok we already established that nolva significantly reduces 3rd gen A.Is blood concentrations, meaning running both together is NOT optimal, right? Well, no not really. As I said before other factors must be considered, most importantly the drugs being used.

First let’s say it's your standard testosterone, EQ cycle (500 and 400mg respectively). In this case the letro/nolva combo (.5-1mg/10-20mg) would be ok. If need be just adjust the letro or nolva dosage.

2nd: If it's a cycle with hefty amounts of test and 19-nors, especially tren, IMO the nolva should be dropped (because of its pro progestinic properties) and letro (because it’s anti-progestinic) should be used only.

For PCT I think both should be used with a gradual taper off the A.I.

Thanks for that Big k.i.g, much appreciated.