Is Frank Shamrock natural or he uses some Juice

[BigRandy]

That is your opinion, and I respect it since you have made legitimate points.

But, I do not agree.

I do believe that it was his diet. He seems like the type of guy who outworks everyone...and would do everything in his power (without breaking rules) to be in his best shape. I know that he also has strength and conditioning coaches along with a nutrition coach. He was doing everything right and had a lot of help from expert trainers. Really, at 205 he was actually pretty small....look at his arms and especially legs...TITO looked like he was about 20 pounds heavier! Also, what makes you think that he got stronger...?

yeah man it was just my opinion. neither of us will probably ever know the truth. he was small at lw. he had tiny calves.

[catabolic kid]

yeah man it was just my opinion. neither of us will probably ever know the truth. he was small at lw. he had tiny calves.

Yeah, he is an awesome athlete though. I love how he dropped down to 205 and (at around 40) demolished Chuck...then TITO and then VITOR...that was great.

[dingobite]

I cant agree randy is all natural myself his change to my eyes went from frail 200+ to huge 200+ barely any smaller than triple H. I was shocked when i saw him after the broken arm deal he looked like he gained some real hvywt muscle. When he walked down to meet HhH for the hvywt challenge i didnt mind his bulking up one bit. When he stood infront of HHH though His 225lbs as you say he weighs looked like 250lbs he almost looked like he was dwarfing HhH in size.

I weigh 200lbs now like alot of other people here if i dieted to loose weight cut out some of the protiens one or two things will happen for me within 2 months. Ill be a lean 180lbs loosing water from my midsection and be fine or i may even for a first time loose some muscle size with it.

I think he was on something i dont doubt it considering the last 3 years alot of wrestlers where putting on some decent ripped muscle.



Both pics have randy and HHH randy has some size in them.
Pics are small though.

[catabolic kid]

I cant agree randy is all natural myself his change to my eyes went from frail 200+ to huge 200+ barely any smaller than triple H. I was shocked when i saw him after the broken arm deal he looked like he gained some real hvywt muscle. When he walked down to meet HhH for the hvywt challenge i didnt mind his bulking up one bit. When he stood infront of HHH though His 225lbs as you say he weighs looked like 250lbs he almost looked like he was dwarfing HhH in size.

I weigh 200lbs now like alot of other people here if i dieted to loose weight cut out some of the protiens one or two things will happen for me within 2 months. Ill be a lean 180lbs loosing water from my midsection and be fine or i may even for a first time loose some muscle size with it.

I think he was on something i dont doubt it considering the last 3 years alot of wrestlers where putting on some decent ripped muscle.



Both pics have randy and HHH randy has some size in them.
Pics are small though.

Nice post, but we are talking about Randy Couture, not the pro wrestler, Randy Orton.