Quote Originally Posted by Ironarms
reason why i wanted to do prop at the end was bc of detection times so i could start my pct on time with the half life of the prop

i will do some more research on the clen, but just out of couriousuty, what did u have in mind?

what advantages will i have with do tren at the beginning of the cycle instaed of at the end? harsh to recover?
1. That's the reason for finishing with the Winny. PCT will start the day after last injection/oral.

2. My reasoning will take forever to explain and I actually have to run in a bit. Do some searches of Clen. I've commented on quite a few along with others that had some very good info.

3. Tren is a very difficult compound to recover from. By running it to the end you will only be making it more difficult for you. The harder your HPTA is supressed the harder it will be to recvoer. Hence you PCT being crucial here.