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Guys,
I plan to start a cycle very soon of Andropen 275. I've got 2 10ml bottles. I want to shoot it EOD to utilize the prop. Is 183mg per shot for 10 weeks enough? Or would it be better to go with a higher dosage, say, 275mg per shot for about six weeks.
My goals are fairly moderate. Only a 10 to 15 pound weight gain is desired.
Stats: 5'7, 170lbs, 11% body fat
Cycle history: 500mgs of sus for 8 weeks; and second cycle: 400mg of eq/500mg of enanthate for 10 weeks.
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183mg EOD would be sufficint
i hope you know about the pain from andropen
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i'm currently using andropen 275 with eq and i'm running it at half a ml EOD which is equal to 550mgs every 8 days
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i was wondering what this was going to be like. i only had a little bit of soreness for a day or two in the glute but when i did my 1st delt injection with this stuff i couldn't lift my arm for about 4 or 5 days. staying away from delt shots. glutes and quads have had no pain at all since.Originally Posted by stocky121
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they supposedly changed the formula so that it isnt as painful. Im personally on 1,5 G's of andropen a week and not getting any results at all. Im definetly switching back to pharmaceutical grade for my next cycle.. dont care that it costs more.
Last edited by stupidhippo; 03-23-2006 at 03:01 PM.
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Cool. Good info. And yeah, I've heard how painful those shots are. Oh well...No pain no gain, right? Any other thoughts about this relatively mild cycle?
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stupidhippo, I'm confused, how much are you taking a week of Andropen 275 and how far in your cycle are you?
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week 9 and 1.5 cc's EOD
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stupidhippo, WHAT???? You're in week 9 and 1.5cc's EOD and no results whatsoever?? Could it be that you're stuff is fake?? That's over a 1000mgs of test a week!!!
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thats a huge amount not to get any gains from. i'm on my second week of it doing 0.5 ml andropen EOD with 450mg eq per week and even in the second week i'm getting some good gains and starting to notice it more every couple of days. my BF is quite low though (Around 10-12%) so sometimes is easier to see progress.
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I have a newbie on only 2 ccs per week shooting twice a week and he is up 20 lbs, perhaps you got bunk gear or dont know how to train, eat, etc.
Especially on 1.5g's, something is definitly wrong
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Ive seen some gains but VERY little compared to what I was expecting.. The source is one of the biggest suppliers of that lab and really doubt it is fake.. I am more inclined to believe its just underdosed. Im exaggerating a lil, there are some gains. But not nearly as much as with smaller dose of pharmaceutical grade.. Im gonna go with pharmaceutical grade next time and then I can make better assesments..
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well Ive been training for a while and never had these problems before.. Im a pretty big guy also and for some reason I dont respond well to low doses.. My first proper was with 700 mg of test and 400 mg of deca since smaller dose wasnt really satisfying me (was on a smaller dose for a whie)... I was 260 lbs natty and not that fat.. not very lean though either. Dont know.. all I can say that so far Im really not liking andropen... might be bunk (I doubt it)... i feel like its severely underdosed.
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Well at 260 you are bigger than me at my peak on cycle, so I would have to guess its underdosed., Did you get your postcards from Romania?
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