Taiotosh7...the sides on Drol seem pretty bad for some guys; other guys seem to have minimal. I'm prepared for headaches, bloat, feeling unwell and loss of significant water weight post cycle, at least for four weeks. I'm not willing to accept nose bleeds and nasuea. Guess I'll have to wait and see how I respond. Turnabol seems like a great oral but I can't find it. I'm also learning how expensive gear is. Damn! Trying to purchase everything before I start any of it.

Any idea of strenght gains from this cycle? I'd to keep 20 lb LBM if possible, more important is keeping strength gains.

Run PTC clem, etc, throughout cycle or just start after Drol and continue through Cyp + 2 weeks?

Thanks to all for imput so far, especially regarding the Winny.