you need to have test in there. Also both of those components are 17-AA. its a no no to run either one of them for more than 4 weeks 5 is pushing it. and to run them both together is bad, both for 8 weeks is crazy if you enjoy having a working liver. do some research and learn what a real cycle is before you come on here, propose some garbage like that then get all offensive when people try to give you the help you asked for.
sides if you want strength you should be using dboll or droll with test and tren.