what can i add to this cycle?*?*

[sauceman19]

this is what im going to be running...

WEEK 1-4 DBOL @ 40MG ED
WEEK 1-10 TEST E @ 750MG
WEEK 1-8 DECA @ 600MG

PCT- CLOMID

i want to throw somethin in there that will help harden me up or possibly solidify some gains.... im open to anything


** i also know a lot of people are gonna tell me i should run the deca to atleast 10 weeks and the test 12 weeks.... but just hold off with those suggestions cause im set on this...thanx**

[mr. snakes]

this is what im going to be running...

WEEK 1-4 DBOL @ 40MG ED
WEEK 1-10 TEST E @ 750MG
WEEK 1-8 DECA @ 600MG

PCT- CLOMID

i want to throw somethin in there that will help harden me up or possibly solidify some gains.... im open to anything


** i also know a lot of people are gonna tell me i should run the deca to atleast 10 weeks and the test 12 weeks.... but just hold off with those suggestions cause im set on this...thanx**

WEEK 1-4 DBOL @ 50MG ED
WEEK 1-10 DECA @ 600MG
WEEK 1-12 TEST E @ 750MG
WEEK 10-14 Winstrol @ 50mg ED

[Liftnainez]

WEEK 1-4 DBOL @ 50MG ED
WEEK 1-10 DECA @ 600MG
WEEK 1-12 TEST E @ 750MG

I believe you both made a mistake.. firstly its ok if he ran the deca for 8 weeks- that his choice.. the problem here is that DECA would last 21 days in your system after last injection so if you decide to run Deca for 8 weeks extened the test to week 11 so it would match up with PCT start time.. 2nd you can throw in an oral if you want something at the end.. since this looks like a bulking cycle maybe TBOL.. you did already use dbol so... but maybe tbol can be thrown in..
Dbol Week 1-4
Deca Week 1-8
Test Week 1-11
Tbol Week 7-11

[IBdmfkr]

Matching halflives is not a necessity, it is just preached and parroted repeatedly on this board.
I actually prefer to drop the Deca a couple weeks ahead of schedule because I feel I recover much easier and faster than running them both till the end. Tren has similar effects, that's why I/We usually suggest to end it short of the test by a week or two.

You need to give us more info, this is much to broad of a question for an educated response. What's your stats/currect diet/goals from cycle/previous cycle experience.
Without those, I won't comment.

[Liftnainez]

Matching halflives is not a necessity, it is just preached and parroted repeatedly on this board.
I actually prefer to drop the Deca a couple weeks ahead of schedule because I feel I recover much easier and faster than running them both till the end. Tren has similar effects, that's why I/We usually suggest to end it short of the test by a week or two.

You need to give us more info, this is much to broad of a question for an educated response. What's your stats/currect diet/goals from cycle/previous cycle experience.
Without those, I won't comment.

This is what I have learned on this as well as many other boards.. Its always preached like crazy.. was just trying to help him out- thats all..

[IBdmfkr]

Wasn't directing anything towards you bro, I was just stating my opinion and my recent experience. I used to think the same thing until this last cycle when I stopped it early with Much better results so far during PCT. Trying to get the idea out there that it isn't set in stone to end half-lives together... Hope you didn't take offense.

[Liftnainez]

Wasn't directing anything towards you bro, I was just stating my opinion and my recent experience. I used to think the same thing until this last cycle when I stopped it early with Much better results so far during PCT. Trying to get the idea out there that it isn't set in stone to end half-lives together... Hope you didn't take offense.

hey brotha... no i did not take offense- i apologize if my post back sounded rude.. i completely understand and agree with your parrrot comment.. happens alot with many diff topics.. i agree totally, just toward the pct protocol (start times) I have seen it read it and never really heard an argument against it saying otherwise.. so i guess i just never even thought about it another way.. but glad it worked well for ya bro..

[IBdmfkr]

Maybe BigK will chime in here, he seems to have a similar feeling about this subject if I remember some of his posts correctly.
Not saying one way is better than the other for everyone, but rather to try each way and see how you respond. Personally if I could do it over I would try the route I just took because it is a safer way to go rather than running them both up to PCT and possibly losing hard-earned gains.

[Liftnainez]

100% agree.. every1 works diff and if something works for you stick with it..

[sauceman19]

this is goin to be my 3rd cycle.... im 5"9, 170lbs..
i have ran test, eq, primo and dbol in my past...
deca will be knew for me this time around...

[IBdmfkr]

this is goin to be my 3rd cycle.... im 5"9, 170lbs..
i have ran test, eq, primo and dbol in my past...
deca will be knew for me this time around...

3cycles and 170lbs, not to flame but that is skinny. If you want help, post your diet in the diet forum, this is where your problem lies.

[sauceman19]

2 cycles and 170lbs.. this is going to be my 3rd

[IBdmfkr]

2cycles, 3cycles. My response stays the same. You're lack of size is not from the use or lack of juice, it is from something else. My recommendation would be to find out what pieces are missing and fix them before proceeding with another cycle that will render little results.

[Billy_Bathgate]

3cycles and 170lbs, not to flame but that is skinny. If you want help, post your diet in the diet forum, this is where your problem lies.

x2. your headed down a path of high doses and trouble keeping gains

[sauceman19]

2cycles, 3cycles. My response stays the same. You're lack of size is not from the use or lack of juice, it is from something else. My recommendation would be to find out what pieces are missing and fix them before proceeding with another cycle that will render little results.

i respect what u said here. i am going to spend some time in the diet forums and figure out what needs to be done.. even tho at 170lbs i lack size, i have still retained 20lbs from the 2 cycles.. i was around 150lbs before i started juicin 2 summers ago, and now i am around 170-173lbs (being off since last summer, around 8/9 months).. i know i started cycling when i was way to light being 150lbs but that was before i was introduced to this site and knew what the **** i was doing.... my 1st cycle was in the summer 04, and my 2nd and most recent cycle was last summer. i take a considerable amount of time off between cycles.

[Liftnainez]

2cycles, 3cycles. My response stays the same. You're lack of size is not from the use or lack of juice, it is from something else. My recommendation would be to find out what pieces are missing and fix them before proceeding with another cycle that will render little results.

strongly agree..

[Tren Bull]

this is what im going to be running...

WEEK 1-4 DBOL @ 40MG ED
WEEK 1-10 TEST E @ 750MG
WEEK 1-8 DECA @ 600MG

PCT- CLOMID

i want to throw somethin in there that will help harden me up or possibly solidify some gains.... im open to anything


** i also know a lot of people are gonna tell me i should run the deca to atleast 10 weeks and the test 12 weeks.... but just hold off with those suggestions cause im set on this...thanx**

there are several drugs you could try taking towards the end of you cycle, like maybe weeks 4-10, or 6-10. you could either run tbol at 40-50 mgs ed, or winni depot at 50-100 mgs at least eod, preferably ed. also, you should consider running clenbuterol during pct. that will with out a doubt help you keep way more of your gains.

[Tren Bull]

Wasn't directing anything towards you bro, I was just stating my opinion and my recent experience. I used to think the same thing until this last cycle when I stopped it early with Much better results so far during PCT. Trying to get the idea out there that it isn't set in stone to end half-lives together... Hope you didn't take offense.

honestly, i have never ended my test or deca dose a few weeks before i stop taking test. i've never had any recovery problems either, at least to such an extent that i noticed anything. i suppose il know for a fact if its been working or not on wednesday when i get my blood test results back.

[Tren Bull]

2cycles, 3cycles. My response stays the same. You're lack of size is not from the use or lack of juice, it is from something else. My recommendation would be to find out what pieces are missing and fix them before proceeding with another cycle that will render little results.

its hard to tell exactly how big he is bro. ive met several guys that weighed 170, but they were pretty well built. some have even been noticably bigger than me, and i weigh 200 pounds. im not huge, but im definately not small either.