Help on running a bulker?

[ODC0717]

I undestand the reasoning for running the test p longer but am confused as well as why not to run the bold prop. Is it due to the pain?

Yes the pain factor sucks ass! I'd rather shoot 1ml of prop with 1ml of water based winny. Even with cutting it you're still going to get some pain from it. I don't even think it matters what lab you use. Most of what I've read is that it's not the preperation that causes the pain, but the hormone itself. If you want a faster acting version of EQ without the pain associated with bold prop I'd say you should look into some bold cyp. Still takes a bit to kick in, but not near as long as bold. undec. and there's generally not a lot of pain post injection.

On another note, I'd say holding off on the NPP as progestin buildup might be an issue while using Tren Acetate. Go with the prop/tren combo and an oral to top things off. Perhaps some drol instead of dbol? Just a thought.

[11rdc11]

You right that it hurts like hell, I have used it before. I had the misfortune of shooting it into my quad with test p and boy I could barely walk afterwards. You are correct that it does not matter who makesit, the hormone is the problem. The reason why I prefer to use a prop ester is so that all my injections would be the same if I chose to do EOD rather than ED.

[ODC0717]

You right that it hurts like hell, I have used it before. I had the misfortune of shooting it into my quad with test p and boy I could barely walk afterwards. You are correct that it does not matter who makesit, the hormone is the problem. The reason why I prefer to use a prop ester is so that all my injections would be the same if I chose to do EOD rather than ED.

That's understandable. Personally, I'd extend the cycle so you could get the whole benefit of bold cyp, or I would cut out the bold. altogether. I just can't even fathom the idea of being a cripple for the entire 6-8 week stretch of your cycle all in the name of using bold prop? But hey, do what you want. NPP on the other hand I wouldn't even consider using it during this cycle unless you were to scratch the tren. Progestin gyno isin't the easiest thing to get rid of. One day you nipps are fine, and the next day you're lactating like a pregnant woman. Personally, I'd go with the prop/tren/tbol, but then it's not really a bulker but more of a lean mass bulker as water retention is going to be next to nothing, depending on how you diet. If you want a sheer bulker that's short then you could go with prop/NPP/dbol, that's a classic bulker.

[11rdc11]

Personally, I'd go with the prop/tren/tbol, but then it's not really a bulker but more of a lean mass bulker as water retention is going to be next to nothing, depending on how you diet. If you want a sheer bulker that's short then you could go with prop/NPP/dbol, that's a classic bulker.

Thanks for the advice. I would run the prop/tren/tbol cycle but I just ran the same cycle not to long ago using the longer esters. I like the idea of the old bread and butter stack with short esters.