Thanks guys, I really mean that. I will start my wussy cycle in two weeks, after my b'day and we'll see what happens. I just have another question. I'll do it for three weeks on, 8 tabs a day, three weeks off with clomid, clen, and milk thistle(thanks for that) but after the three weeks off should I jump into another Dbol cycle? For now the way to go is with tabs so I'm trying to get more information on what other kinds are out there.

My goal right now is to bulk up by Christmas. Not huge gains but enough to notice, say 10 or 15 solid pounds. I have used a good diet and lost 10 lbs, then hit clen and lost 10 more. I was once 215. I'm not to worried about burning fat because I have already shed 20 or so pounds in 6 months.

Anyway I feel the better informed I am the smarter decision I will make. Thanks to all those who helped me before and please let me know if there are any others out there that can be taken orally. At least till Christmas I have to go this way.

Later