for starters, hard gainers are going to be hard gainers whether they are on gear or not. the issue is most often not hormones (and showing how little the hormones did for him on his cycle proves that), it's usually diet, training, and rest.Originally Posted by tank2005
being a "hard gainer" is just an excuse for not wanting to make the effort and wanting an easy way out. i started lifting at about 14 years old, and i was only 135lbs!!! i started training and FORCEFEEDING, and put on 40lbs. in about 4 months. that was without steroids as well! it doesn't take steroids at that point.
if your metabolism is that high that you claim you can't gain, you have to forcefeed all the time. i used to forcefeed myself till i'd end up puking sometimes, then i'd eat again to make up for what i threw up! took months of doing that till my stomach expanded enough to take in the calories i needed, but my gains were unbelievable.
the majority of the time people are hardgainers because of not getting enough calories, even though they think they're stuffing themselves all the time. you need to do a number crunch. there's a link on the diet forums here that's a sticky which has a calorie calculator to show how many calories you'd need in a day.
if you truly are taking in enough calories (which i seriously doubt judging by your looks), then your issue must be how you're training. you should be posting your diet and training regimen and having that critiqued, you should not be bothering with "what cycle do i waste money on next to get minimal gains off of it that could be achieved if i wasn't too lazy to learn?". you don't even know what pct is yet! that alone shows you jumped into this uninformed and unprepared. take a step back and look at the big picture here.
oh, and as for you "tank2005" and your above quote, you know that by taking the gear now before attaining what you're actually capable of will limit the maximum you'll ever be able to achieve? taking gear as far short of your genetic limits as you are has greatly hindered your maximum gains achievable. don't juice just because you don't know what you're doing and use the excuse "boo hoo, i'm a hardgainer". you could achieve the gains you metioned far faster if you worked on aspects of your training other than just taking gear.
your first priorities should be your diet and training and when they're in check, next you can consider gear. if you truly believe both are in check then post them and see what people have to say about it. and don't use the "school" excuse. we all work son, but we find the time to eat what we need. stop the excuses and take responsibility for your own shortcomings.
i'm sorry if this comes off as flaming, as my intent is to try to help you, but i'm just sick of people taking gear and using excuses that they can't gain without it. unless you go to a doctor and they tell you you're hormonally deficient, there's no legitimate excuse.
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