Im not really that concerned with muscle loss...i was just giving some food for thought to the topic...for me i not lose much muscle at all even at very low carbs (50-75g) and doing shows completely natural..this summer will be my first show using extra stuff...ive started cardio early just to get in a mode but when i start dieting in 2 wks i will just be taking aminos before i do cardio then take my protein and carbs after....in the past ive preserved muscle simply by starting out the diet with higher carbs...