HELP Tai w/ his Cycle

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I'm I the only one wondering goals here?


wks 1-12 Test E--------->1000mgs EW
wks 1-10 Tren-A-------->100mgs ED
wks 1-4 Halo------------> 40mgs ED
Wks 8-14 Winny---------> 100mgs ED

Now these numbers are roughly what I would do, now just apply it to yourself Tai.

I hate the idea of running Tren to the very end, I've stated that many of times and why. The combo of these will be great. Tren binds so dam hard to the AR and will kick in relatively quick. The Halo will get the ball rolling quick and hard. Test is test.

The Tren/Test/Halo combo is nice but beware of sides. As already states you can really feel like crap running them together. Then let us know your goals and and if there is a substantial caloric deficit then you're really going to feel like crap.

Winny at the end to free up and test that has been bound throughout the cylce and to finish hardening you up. Not too many winny fans on this board as I"m not the biggest either. But it fits great in that cycle andd you can easliy cut it down to 4 weeks if needed.

[C_Bino]

I'm I the only one wondering goals here?


wks 1-12 Test E--------->1000mgs EW
wks 1-10 Tren-A-------->100mgs ED
wks 1-4 Halo------------> 40mgs ED
Wks 8-14 Winny---------> 100mgs ED

Now these numbers are roughly what I would do, now just apply it to yourself Tai.

I hate the idea of running Tren to the very end, I've stated that many of times and why. The combo of these will be great. Tren binds so dam hard to the AR and will kick in relatively quick. The Halo will get the ball rolling quick and hard. Test is test.

The Tren/Test/Halo combo is nice but beware of sides. As already states you can really feel like crap running them together. Then let us know your goals and and if there is a substantial caloric deficit then you're really going to feel like crap.

Winny at the end to free up and test that has been bound throughout the cylce and to finish hardening you up. Not too many winny fans on this board as I"m not the biggest either. But it fits great in that cycle andd you can easliy cut it down to 4 weeks if needed.

Good input Jay. I think the goal is pure strength through this cycle and not stamina or cutting. Wait for big Tai to answer but Im pretty sure its a big strength builder and he is going to cut later on.

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If you do split it up I would do the second run 11-16.

I hate the idea of running Tren to the very end, I've stated that many of times and why.

With that question mark Tai listed none of us are sure how long he'll be running test. But if He does what you suggested he better be running that test for 20 weeks.

[C_Bino]

With that question mark Tai listed none of us are sure how long he'll be running test. But if He does what you suggested he better be running that test for 20 weeks.

Ya sorry I re-read what I wrote and I can see why you thought what you did. It didnt sound right. I meant if he is going to stick with Test E (which he probably would do 20 weeks) than split the tren up into 2 6 week runs instead of one 6 and one 7. But I would personally run prop instead so I could cut the whole cycle shorter (was agreeing with Marcus) so tren would be cut shorter as well.

I have also said in many threads that I would never run tren up until the end, always cut it a few weeks short of test depending on the esters used and throw winny in.

I just cant speak engilsh lol.

[SPIKE]

But I would personally run prop instead so I could cut the whole cycle shorter (was agreeing with Marcus) so tren would be cut shorter as well.

As I would too buddy :-).

But after seeing his goal its all out now. Cycles are always based around individual goals, we all know that.

I gotta run. I'll check back to see what you guys got on this. Tai and his crazy cycles man .

[taiboxa]

Ya sorry I re-read what I wrote and I can see why you thought what you did. It didnt sound right. I meant if he is going to stick with Test E (which he probably would do 20 weeks) than split the tren up into 2 6 week runs instead of one 6 and one 7. But I would personally run prop instead so I could cut the whole cycle shorter (was agreeing with Marcus) so tren would be cut shorter as well.

I have also said in many threads that I would never run tren up until the end, always cut it a few weeks short of test depending on the esters used and throw winny in.

I just cant speak engilsh lol.

there really is no end w/ the cruise and then into different phases requiring different compounds to achieve different goals.. so i have no problems running it to the "END" as u call it ;D

[C_Bino]

there really is no end w/ the cruise and then into different phases requiring different compounds to achieve different goals.. so i have no problems running it to the "END" as u call it ;D

Tru say my man. I forgot you were cruisin, my bad.

Well maybe the most obvious thing that no one suggested is just wait till you are on and really see how you feel. Everyone can tell you the sides will be harsh you wont feel great but its all individual.

[taiboxa]

I'm I the only one wondering goals here?


wks 1-12 Test E--------->1000mgs EW
wks 1-10 Tren-A-------->100mgs ED
wks 1-4 Halo------------> 40mgs ED
Wks 8-14 Winny---------> 100mgs ED

Now these numbers are roughly what I would do, now just apply it to yourself Tai.

I hate the idea of running Tren to the very end, I've stated that many of times and why. The combo of these will be great. Tren binds so dam hard to the AR and will kick in relatively quick. The Halo will get the ball rolling quick and hard. Test is test.

The Tren/Test/Halo combo is nice but beware of sides. As already states you can really feel like crap running them together. Then let us know your goals and and if there is a substantial caloric deficit then you're really going to feel like crap.

Winny at the end to free up and test that has been bound throughout the cylce and to finish hardening you up. Not too many winny fans on this board as I"m not the biggest either. But it fits great in that cycle andd you can easliy cut it down to 4 weeks if needed.

yeah im aware of sides and stuff, and the extreme lack of stamina i just want to raise the str exponentially. i hate win not good for me RAPES joints and w/ all the strongman training i need my joints going full speed. Here..

i train 3x a week IronMan Hit right now then goto wsb then to DC then repeeat but i keep tues/thurs open for functional str training.

tues is explosive day i will sprint up (trudge slowly LOL) a 15yrd 40degree hill w/ a 80kg Log, i will hurl a 50lb medicine ball granny style over me shoulder as high as i can, i will do sumo wresting w/ buddy (THAT SHIT IS HARD) and finish w/ 50yrd sprints... i dont do plyometrics anymore 292lbs is HORRID on the knees

thurs is endurance day which will goto shit once primary cycle starts.
this includes a subaru (car/stationwagon) that has a ball hitch that i hook up to my 160$harness and pull 80+yrds (my parents have 100yrd or so CONCRETE DRIVEWAY HUGE! they paid an arm+leg for it) i will pull the emergency brake up 2 clicks usually to add resistance respectively.
i will do a farmers carry of 120lb DB's NO WRAPS for as far as i can w/ largest possible strides, i will flip a tire tracter approx 10 times rest repeat.. takes FOR EVER!!! and if it rains the night before.. well life just sucks then, doesnt it! then i will finish w/ jumprope w/ 3minute intervals w/ 1minute rest w/ 5-10sets.

weekends i do yoga/pilates w/ rhonda.. u may laff but i gurantee i have one of the strongest cores on this forum

i dicked up my pec long ago on tren, i realized after the 3rd time this happen w/ tren. the reason was i was DRY and thats why it happend- tren dry's me out harder than anything i have ever ran even win! so i always dick it up thus i always include 200-300mg Deca/wk which is a great assset to my cycles.

i took off for 2.5weeks nursing my peck and working on stamina i lift E5thDay doing 3sets of 20 of everything cept presses and pulls (both stimulate PAIN in pect)
its finally better

all i wanna do on this cycle is get super strong and piss on stamina.. i will focus on stamina in another phase