I just wanted to know some alternatives to steriods if there are any
I just wanted to know some alternatives to steriods if there are any
Food...!
Creatine? Fact is nothing will give you the gains of steroids when they are combined with and what i call the 'anabolic lifestyle' (effective diet, solid training, minimal rec drug and alcohol consumption, adequate sleep)
and working out like a beast!!!!
i used legal gear methyl 1 test (m1t). started at 173lbs, weight now 198lbs. been on it for about one year off and on. blows you up solid damm well. it was baned last year, but i bought 17 bottles of it. will last up to ten year stored. my gym still have vpx brand m1t and paradeca for sell.Originally Posted by lane
Take lots of BCAA and glutamine .. J/K of course. You will get the most out of juice but you need to really research before you start. Get your diet and training in check first and see how much you can gain from that alone . Than when you can not gain any more you can decide if you want to juice( after you have researched ) Just my 2 cc's
Sorry M1T is a steroid, a hardcore one at that.Originally Posted by poloblue
thanks bro never knew that. guess i know why i got so big on it. would this make it my firt cycleOriginally Posted by big k.l.g
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May i say........Bust yo ass @ the gym; eat like a horse; rest; stay away from unnecessary drugs/alcohol....and start again!Originally Posted by mindongoal
throw in some good suppl......that's it!
your first year-long cycle to bootOriginally Posted by poloblue
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LMAO....is it me or someone is made fun ofOriginally Posted by Narkissos
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I second that!Originally Posted by big k.l.g
creatine and other supps. besides protein have never worked for me.
Does anyone think hard and determination will eventually get you to where anabolic steroids can take you?
Originally Posted by lane
How long have you been training?
What's your diet like?
What's you weight..and what's your lean body mass?
Creatine and other supps are just that.. supplements.. they supplement your regime.
To say they 'don't work' means something is wrong with that which they 'supplement' .. i.e. your diet and training regime.
Steroids take you to your genetic potential.. and then some.
Can you reach your genetic potential without 'em?
Yes.
Why is everybody looking for "Roids like" suppl. I mean, if taken seriously and w/o "the more the better", that's a lot safer than most of "prohormones" or roids like shit, cuz in most case, you'll only get sides and no benefits.
Unfortunately, there's very little products out there that actually do work as roids. Stuff like PP or HD 50....but we ain't even sure they're not roids derivative....so why bother![]()
I can clear that up: They are steroids. PP is a steroid in its own right and HD50 is a substrate for turinabol
what's PP? i may have missed something then!
PheraPlex
like these guys said food it the best possible ingredient to mass, once your diet is on youll grow whether you take gear or not..otherwise my training partner is taking 17HD by vyotech..its a natural supplement with plant extracts to boost test levels..his strength is up huge and hes just starting wk 2...
Sorry, i didn't mean "what means PP", but what kinda roid is Phera plex??? i'd have known, if it was, well i guess....Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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Narkissos,
i'm 21
6'3 215
19% body fat (i don't know how accurate that is) im not fat i would say a little leaner than the average college student
never used a prohormone or steroid
i did weigh 240(fat), diet and cardio brought me down to 170(really skinny)
have been working out hard for about a year and a half after i lost weight (went from 170 to 215)
I eat a lot
Lots of protein, lots of carbs(no sugar or simple carbs) and some fat.
Eventually i want to get to a ripped 240 but don't know if thats possible
Oh yeah Testostack I have read from this forum and from the washington post that phera-plex is dmt
i'll stick to HD 50 for next time....keep you guyz posted!
Thats cool, I just ordered some Halodrol and waiting for it to get in. I also wanna stock up on some Phera-plex, Methoxy TST, and Superdrol. I heard there is a ban coming. is that true?
Yayaya.......all methyl existing at once........and in few weeks you'll buy a brand new liver, right?
Eazse up on those stuff bro, HD 50 alone is plenty enough already, trust me!
haha no way im taking them all at once. Im hesitant to start just Halodrol. Im just stocking up encase there is a ban. Does anyone know if the gov. will ban any of those i listed soon.
Originally Posted by lane
I've bought 4 bottle just in case but i know they already have eyes on it and that like SD, it's gonna be gone very soon!
Too bad!
yeah that sucks
It has a sterane skeletone, therefore, its a steroid.Originally Posted by Testostack
HD50 - while a steroid - has a hydroxyl group at C3, so technically, its a sterol
Kinda i guess....thanks for info!Originally Posted by Milky87
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How about Dynabolan™ ??
did anybody tried before?
I still have a bottle of M1T by gaspari nutrition. I used it about a year ago with great results and was wondering if their is anything else out their like that? Can you still get halodrol? Is the methyl 1 alpha any good by legal gear? Any other products out their? Thanks...
One word...........................Originally Posted by Bihster
Just marketed![]()
Nuff said
HD is the shit you might wanna get, not that crappy Dynabolan stuff....Originally Posted by suprman09
Do a search, there are plenty of threads about it!![]()
Here's an option: IGF
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=241539
Halodrol, superdrol, phera plex? Which one is the best, and can these supplements be stacked with any others?
Why always looking for stack?Originally Posted by suprman09
Just try the goddam product by itself and then you'll......SD is too harsh for what it gives...
PP is good stuff but make sure to have aproper pct
HD is way better considering the very few sides (if any) and pounds up after pct.
Good pumps too and a bit more vascular is what you can get along w/ a correct diet!![]()
halodrol is good stuff.
Testo would some novadex be a suffiecent PCT for the HD or PP?
Nolva 40/40/20/20 would be enough for HD only cycle, yes!Originally Posted by suprman09
ya lucky bastard, i was just about to get some zzzzz!
Good nite evryone!![]()
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