as a good jump start. If you are using a long acting ester like ethanate, you usually not see gains of any sort until week 4, maybe 5 or 6. Dbol is usually ran at 4 weeks this way. So if you start you dbol and test e at the same time, by the time you're done with the dbol at wk 4 that's when the test should kick in and take over so there isn't a 4 week gap of slow slow progress