Unbearable Pain, Please Help

[FullyPremier]

my 1st cycle was over a year ago, 1 bottle of deca300 QV, and 1 bottle of tornel test enthanate. i never took more than 2ccs per week. it went good.
Now in the 3rd week of my 2nd cycle of deca, test enthanate & test propionate.
1st week i shot 2ccs of the deca, and 1 of the test enthanate. unbelievable amounts of pain for the 6 days after, up until my next shot the following monday.
2nd week i did the same, 2 deca and 1 test in the other glute, because i saw a doctor and suspected the 1st week 2 b an infection from the injection. was much more careful and sanitary, but same horrrible pains.
3rd week i decided 3ccs was 2 much, this site says no more than 2, so i took the deca by itself. 2 ccs. That was yesterday, now tuesday night and its baddddd again.
The deca is nandrolona (kangaroo, australian brand) deca 300, it seems every 36 hours after the injection my ass hurts fuknnnn badddddddd, like i lay in bed with a heat pad on my ass and take 800mg of ibuprofin just 2 sleep.
my leg feels like its paralyzed, when i go 2 get up, its the sharpest pain, and takes a while 2 stand up. nothing compared 2 the pain i experienced my 1st time around with deca which was none basically, and the reactions from my juicer buddies are, "this should not be happening"
Any1 with a clue, whats going on?
i got the deca myself from mexico, it was sealed and everything so i dont suspect it is fake or anything like that, but my body is reacting really weird 2 this australian shit compared to the QV i took the first time around, or maybe im just taking too much???

[Cdup]

What size needles are you using? You could be going too deep. Also, Prop. will hurt like a motha. And how long are you running Prop. for? It really should only be run to kickstart for abt. 4 wks.

[thaisteroids]

Some QV has a lot of anti bacterical stuff in it, and that hurts like a MF.
Get some sterile oil (from our sponsors) (or get a conversion kit), and mix it 50/50 Sure, you "can't" shoot 6cc in one time, but then you shoot it twice a week.

If the gear is OK, then that's the only explenation I have

[Anabolios]

What size needles are you using? You could be going too deep. Also, Prop. will hurt like a motha. And how long are you running Prop. for? It really should only be run to kickstart for abt. 4 wks.

thats bs dude...i have bros that run prop alone or prop stacked for 10 weeks...why would you say it should only be run kickstart clownnnnnnnnn

[ThaPrepster82]

thats bs dude...i have bros that run prop alone or prop stacked for 10 weeks...why would you say it should only be run kickstart clownnnnnnnnn

I agree with anabolios....What is your reasoning for saying it should ONLY be used 2 kickstart..??

[LookinToGrow]

Do you have any swelling or redness at the injection site? Are you running any kind of a fever? If so, could be cellulitis. I don't suspect it is, though, because you wouldn't have made it this far without treatment.

[TheSentinal]

Okay - did you mix the aas? 3 cc's would make my ass hurt too. What size pin?
Couple thoughts: Try using a 1" pin (23-25g) and shoot your quad. Split your injections out through the week. Push the plunger in slowly. Rub the area. You know the story here.

[snoopy]

I was lead to believe that you should never inject more than 2 cc in one location.

[Xprime]

Test E + Prop = pain

u can try that in the calves if u really want to know what is the pain

Actually i have the same pain than you in my biceps due to Test propionate and npp.

[snoopy]

Pain I'll tell you about pain, t400 any where. Like a fire in my thigh. Everybody asking me if I'm ok limping like long john bloody silver.

[Kale]

I was lead to believe that you should never inject more than 2 cc in one location.

Thats not true bro. It depends a lot on where you are shooting. I have done 4cc in the glutes with no problems and regularly do 3cc in the quads

[thaisteroids]

4cc in the glute goes OK for me 2. Need to inject it a bit slower, but now issues at all.

I still think you should cut it with some sterile oil. that will cure your pain.

[FullyPremier]

What size needles are you using? You could be going too deep. Also, Prop. will hurt like a motha. And how long are you running Prop. for? It really should only be run to kickstart for abt. 4 wks.

im using 22 needles, but i ordered some 25s because i was thinkin that 2. they are 1.5 inches long. i didnt shoot the prop, i took the deca by itself, 2ccs, in the glute, and am xperiencing this horrible pain.

[FullyPremier]

Some QV has a lot of anti bacterical stuff in it, and that hurts like a MF.
Get some sterile oil (from our sponsors) (or get a conversion kit), and mix it 50/50 Sure, you "can't" shoot 6cc in one time, but then you shoot it twice a week.

If the gear is OK, then that's the only explenation I have

im not taking QV right now, i did a year ago, but im taking the australian brand now with the kangaroo. what is the oil going to do, or conversion kit? since im adding oil to it, does that mean that i need 2 take twice as much since im doubling the amount of oil in the vial?

[Defconx3]

Hmm, I'm suspecting dirty gear, if its really bothering you, then you should try running your gear through a whatman filter to clean it. If that solves the problem, then you know what caused it.

[FullyPremier]

thats bs dude...i have bros that run prop alone or prop stacked for 10 weeks...why would you say it should only be run kickstart clownnnnnnnnn

yeah aside from that, i know its not the prop thats hurting cuz i took the deca alone and thats where its hurting. since i gotta take the prop every other day i shoot it in the shoulders by itself since my ass is wayyy 2 sore 2 even think about injecting more shit n2 it.

[FullyPremier]

Do you have any swelling or redness at the injection site? Are you running any kind of a fever? If so, could be cellulitis. I don't suspect it is, though, because you wouldn't have made it this far without treatment.

yeah the first week it was pretty swollen, like instant stretch marks, tender, red, and i did have a bad fever. so thats y i did c the doc, got some med, got better. so that first week might have been an infection.
but since, no red, little swelling, no stretch marks, litttttle fever, but still horrible pain, like i cant walk normal or play it off.

[FullyPremier]

I was lead to believe that you should never inject more than 2 cc in one location.

im hopeing thats my only problem, because ill deal with injecting more often rather than all @ once. however the 1st 2 weeks i shot 3ccs all in 1 shot (2deca and 1test) this past week i took only the 2ccs of deca, and it still hurts badddly

[FullyPremier]

Test E + Prop = pain

u can try that in the calves if u really want to know what is the pain

Actually i have the same pain than you in my biceps due to Test propionate and npp.

i took enthanate the 1st 2 weeks with the deca, i just recently came up on prop and decided to hold off on the enthanate, so i started taking the prop by itself in the shoulder, and seperated the deca into glute shots. my shoulders sore from the 22 needle, maybe some from the prop 2.

[FullyPremier]

Pain I'll tell you about pain, t400 any where. Like a fire in my thigh. Everybody asking me if I'm ok limping like long john bloody silver.

my boys that have taken t400 say that it looks like thats what im taking the way i limp and the expressions on my face when i try 2 move.

[FullyPremier]

Thats not true bro. It depends a lot on where you are shooting. I have done 4cc in the glutes with no problems and regularly do 3cc in the quads

my buddy injects that much as well. so what do u think is the problem? my body cant handle 600mg potency? or i need 2 mix my juice with sterile oil or whatever?

[FullyPremier]

4cc in the glute goes OK for me 2. Need to inject it a bit slower, but now issues at all.

I still think you should cut it with some sterile oil. that will cure your pain.

ive never heard of mixing with sterile oil until 2day, how does this work?

[Xprime]

Bear the pain. I had my right forearm wounded by glass, it was cuted deep enough to be able to see my tendon moving when i saw my right hand with the tendon cuted in half, lucky for me i can use my right hand today, i had no pain until the ambulance arrive and begin to clean my wound.

If u have pain with Deca there is a problem with ur juice or you or the two lol.

[Reprisal 6]

ive never heard of mixing with sterile oil until 2day, how does this work?

It's easy enough to find a site with sterile cotton seed oil. Do a search. 100 milliliters for 10 bucks. Cotton seed oil will cut the pain of the AAS by a huge amount. Do a search

[thaisteroids]

im not taking QV right now, i did a year ago, but im taking the australian brand now with the kangaroo. what is the oil going to do, or conversion kit? since im adding oil to it, does that mean that i need 2 take twice as much since im doubling the amount of oil in the vial?

just click on the link in conversion kit, and buy one, it has all you need. Some extra oil, whatman filter and sterile vial.
And yes, if you double the oil, you need to tike twice as much, but then it won't hurt that bad.

[Anabolios]

just click on the link in conversion kit, and buy one, it has all you need. Some extra oil, whatman filter and sterile vial.
And yes, if you double the oil, you need to tike twice as much, but then it won't hurt that bad.

why does he need a conversion kit? please fill us in thanks

[Xprime]

Don t forget to filter ur oil if u do not want an infecton (whatmann filter)

[thaisteroids]

why does he need a conversion kit? please fill us in thanks

Xprime allready answered it i guess. But a conversion kit contains all he needs.

From his story the gear is not "clean", and at a heavy dosage, giving him the pain he has.
Cutting it with oil will help, and the whatman filter cleans your gear.

I guess you don't want to do this every fefw days, so better get a sterile vial (also part of the kit) to convert all your gear to a lower dosaged gear.

He could also experiment, like adding 1/4 extra oil, to see if that helps, if not, he can allways cut it further to 1/2 1/2.

[snoopy]

my boys that have taken t400 say that it looks like thats what im taking the way i limp and the expressions on my face when i try 2 move.

T400 comes in a large bottle, the oil is really thick, just as thick as cyp before heated. I get no pain imeadiatley after injecting a day or so after, and that is with any test, I get a little swelling and some pain.

Do you heat your juice? My coach insists I mix always with prop, as this is alchahol based it thins the solution so the body absorbs it better. This usually works for me as it does other BB, I know.

[speak]

Just mix it in the syringe, don't mix all your gear with the oil. You might get used to it and not have to mix in a few weeks. I also have a reaction to test that most people don't get. Deca usually is totally painless, I would split it up twice a week and see what that does.

[Anabolios]

Xprime allready answered it i guess. But a conversion kit contains all he needs.

From his story the gear is not "clean", and at a heavy dosage, giving him the pain he has.
Cutting it with oil will help, and the whatman filter cleans your gear.

I guess you don't want to do this every fefw days, so better get a sterile vial (also part of the kit) to convert all your gear to a lower dosaged gear.

He could also experiment, like adding 1/4 extra oil, to see if that helps, if not, he can allways cut it further to 1/2 1/2.

you can just order that stuff individually but yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[LookinToGrow]

hey bro, just checking in. Saw your post after mine about cellulitis. You mentioned you were on antibiotics. I'f you're still on them and still injecting, you might just be putting off another infection. If you're still having pain, any fever, any swelling, you may have cellulitis. Did you tell your doc you were injecting AAS? You may have gotten a hold of some bum gear. If so, that's nothing to mess around with. Good luck.

[dale haywood]

ive had some bad pain the day after shooting sust but never felt a thing from deca

[Cdup]

thats bs dude...i have bros that run prop alone or prop stacked for 10 weeks...why would you say it should only be run kickstart clownnnnnnnnn

I just meant in his cycle. He has Deca, a long acting test ester and the prop. IMHO, the prop. should be run to kickstart in THIS case. Sorry I never specified. DAMN.

[Xprime]

I don t remember if there is Qv fake product???

If u have pain with Deca there is a problem with ur juice or you or the two lol.

[DDDNTZ]

The first time I used Deca, it wqas QV and it hurt like a mofo. It was definitely real though. Guess it hed too much BA.

[jaze]

bump?

[jaze]

hey bro if it s causing that much pain there is probably something wrong , run a search for testing gear and send some away to get tested, in the mean time listen to your body ,it's rejecting that s**t for a reason. just my humble opinion.

[Tren Bull]

my 1st cycle was over a year ago, 1 bottle of deca300 QV, and 1 bottle of tornel test enthanate. i never took more than 2ccs per week. it went good.
Now in the 3rd week of my 2nd cycle of deca, test enthanate & test propionate.
1st week i shot 2ccs of the deca, and 1 of the test enthanate. unbelievable amounts of pain for the 6 days after, up until my next shot the following monday.
2nd week i did the same, 2 deca and 1 test in the other glute, because i saw a doctor and suspected the 1st week 2 b an infection from the injection. was much more careful and sanitary, but same horrrible pains.
3rd week i decided 3ccs was 2 much, this site says no more than 2, so i took the deca by itself. 2 ccs. That was yesterday, now tuesday night and its baddddd again.
The deca is nandrolona (kangaroo, australian brand) deca 300, it seems every 36 hours after the injection my ass hurts fuknnnn badddddddd, like i lay in bed with a heat pad on my ass and take 800mg of ibuprofin just 2 sleep.
my leg feels like its paralyzed, when i go 2 get up, its the sharpest pain, and takes a while 2 stand up. nothing compared 2 the pain i experienced my 1st time around with deca which was none basically, and the reactions from my juicer buddies are, "this should not be happening"
Any1 with a clue, whats going on?
i got the deca myself from mexico, it was sealed and everything so i dont suspect it is fake or anything like that, but my body is reacting really weird 2 this australian shit compared to the QV i took the first time around, or maybe im just taking too much???

sounds like your deca has too much alcohol in it. usually deca doesn't hurt at all.