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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    if ur diet is spot on.. as it shud be if ur using AAS.. then u really shudnt need much in the vitamin/mineral department as u should be acquiring those through your VARIETY of FOODS.
    Sorry Tai - can't agree with you here. Many diets can be restrictive of certain foods or macros (like Keto diets lacking grains - the primary sources of B vitamins)... and that can handicap goals/progress. An "abnormal" and extreme fitness lifestyle - especially one that incorporates AAS for rapid changes in body composition - requires abnormal nutritional needs. Constant weight/endurance training puts a lot of stress on the entire system - and the damage from free radicals alone can impede progress.

    There is the daily nutirional requirements as established by the governing authorities for the average Joe... then there are the performance daily intakes athletes need. And the more extreme you are with changing your body composition - the more these basic nutrients become mandatory in increasing quantities.

    For example... many of us with knee problems from years of abuse have found that mega dosing of Vitamin C (over 8 grams ED) has helped clear this issue... along with many other positive effects. To get the minimal 8 grams of Vitamin C from our diet - that would mean eating at least 115 oranges everyday for our results...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior
    Sorry Tai - can't agree with you here. Many diets can be restrictive of certain foods or macros (like Keto diets lacking grains - the primary sources of B vitamins)... and that can handicap goals/progress. An "abnormal" and extreme fitness lifestyle - especially one that incorporates AAS for rapid changes in body composition - requires abnormal nutritional needs. Constant weight/endurance training puts a lot of stress on the entire system - and the damage from free radicals alone can impede progress.

    There is the daily nutirional requirements as established by the governing authorities for the average Joe... then there are the performance daily intakes athletes need. And the more extreme you are with changing your body composition - the more these basic nutrients become mandatory in increasing quantities.

    For example... many of us with knee problems from years of abuse have found that mega dosing of Vitamin C (over 8 grams ED) has helped clear this issue... along with many other positive effects. To get the minimal 8 grams of Vitamin C from our diet - that would mean eating at least 115 oranges everyday for our results...
    I was thinking the same thing. You put it very well. I tell cats the RDA of vit. C is something like 60mg? Absolute shit! I take 3g. ED regardless.

    On another note, I feel Animal Pack is crap, and overpriced crap at that. There's plenty other good multi's out there that don't cost the price of Animal Crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODC0717
    I was thinking the same thing. You put it very well. I tell cats the RDA of vit. C is something like 60mg? Absolute shit! I take 3g. ED regardless.

    On another note, I feel Animal Pack is crap, and overpriced crap at that. There's plenty other good multi's out there that don't cost the price of Animal Crap.
    Its kind of an interesting little blend of rocks they give you. It includes everything from aminos to minerals, vitamins to digestive enzymes and their precursors... it's probably the most well-rounded vitamin pack I've ever seen. Whether that much is necessary... it ain't totally clear...

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