Cycle question

[j_jack34]

Looking for good companion to Deca for a cycle to drop fat quick as well as build some good lean muscle. Been thinking about Clen.....What about T3, Clen and Deca?

[longhorn814]

what are your stats, cycle experience, etc? Sounds like you have a lot of research to do before you do anything.

[shortie]

You gonna run deca, you gotta have test in there for any kind of a decent cycle.

Now to start the drumbeat the only thing that will drop fat for you is diet and cardio, you can use some supplements(clen, T3) but if you eat like shit they will do nothing for you, but if you have a good diet they are unneeded by most except those in contest prep IMO. So get your diet/cardio routine inline to lose weight properly and then see where your at and if you need assistance on your fat loss goals.

[j_jack34]

been working out since i was 17. 25 now. I have taken 3 cycles of Test Enan, Winny V, Deca, all of these were taken alone, nothing stacked. I am 6'2 230 only looking to drop maybe 15 lbs. really lean up for more definition. I know at the same time I will be building muscle because I haven't been as regimented as I should be. Back on diet now. Low Low carbs, lots of protein, meal replacements, that sort of thing. Cardio: right now walking at a fast pace for about an hour a day. Going to incorporate some cycling soon. All the stuff I have taken in the past with the exception of the Win has gave me good gains. I know that I need to start probably with a Test base for my stack, I want to incorporate the Deca, and I am looking for something else to help with definition. Thanks for the help.

[longhorn814]

if youre wanting more definition why are you wanting to take deca? A good cutting cycle would be prop/winny

[j_jack34]

because i have it already

[j_jack34]

I guess i am just wanting something more middle of the road. I am not a bodybuilder yet not a slob either. Want something to go along with the gear I already have to produce some good mass but without the bloated watery look.

[shortie]

IMO you can still cut with deca, cutting really is after all an effect of diet not so much the AAS used, now you might not get as dry of a look as you would with winny or masteron, but you can still do it. A real simple stack would be like this:
Weeks 1-12 Test E 500mgs
weeks 1-10 Deca 400mgs
weeks 1-5 Turanibol 50 mgs ed
Turanibol is an excellent drug IMO and has provided me personally with some very lean gains and limited water retention. Take some ldex or Aromasin to combat bloat and you should lean up nicely if you keep your diet in check.

[j_jack34]

What pct would you recommend with this cycle?

[shortie]

Check out the stickies in the PCT forum-Several good ideas there, as well you can do a search for "Anthony Roberts PCT", I believe it was originally posted by Pinnacle, excellent read.

[j_jack34]

thanks for the help.

[Booz]

IMO you can still cut with deca, cutting really is after all an effect of diet not so much the AAS used, now you might not get as dry of a look as you would with winny or masteron, but you can still do it. A real simple stack would be like this:
Weeks 1-12 Test E 500mgs
weeks 1-10 Deca 400mgs
weeks 1-5 Turanibol 50 mgs ed
Turanibol is an excellent drug IMO and has provided me personally with some very lean gains and limited water retention. Take some ldex or Aromasin to combat bloat and you should lean up nicely if you keep your diet in check.

100% agreed with this shortie.....................

[Booz]

IMO you can still cut with deca, cutting really is after all an effect of diet not so much the AAS used, now you might not get as dry of a look as you would with winny or masteron, but you can still do it. A real simple stack would be like this:
Weeks 1-12 Test E 500mgs
weeks 1-10 Deca 400mgs
weeks 1-5 Turanibol 50 mgs ed
Turanibol is an excellent drug IMO and has provided me personally with some very lean gains and limited water retention. Take some ldex or Aromasin to combat bloat and you should lean up nicely if you keep your diet in check.

100% agreed with this shortie.....................