Quote Originally Posted by Superballer
Clen is pretty powerful stuff.

I thought I was going to need clen or some other ancillary, but when I really got my diet dialed in, I found that I could get as lean as I wanted to.
Ditto, I wouldn't do clen unless you in a hurry for a contest or something. Otherwise you can achieve the same results without all the stress on your heart. And your diet should be inline before starting clen. And jogging isn't gunna cut it, 40-60 minutes of low intensity cardio in the morning will.